Dom
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Post by Dom on Apr 10, 2010 22:53:14 GMT
Anyone think that maybe it's Melinda's powers? That the vines are happening because of Melinda? Hmm. :/
Whatever is happening, this looks pretty fantastic. Hope is steadily rising.
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Quadquetra
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Halliwell[ss:RtM: Charmed - All Hell Breaks Loose]
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Post by Quadquetra on Apr 10, 2010 23:02:10 GMT
Im wondering if she has Geokinesis or something, or maybe some kind of summoning power. But I am hoping she has one of her aunts or her mothers powers
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Glenn
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Post by Glenn on Apr 11, 2010 8:07:48 GMT
It would be natural if she would gain her mother's powers. Chris got Telekinesis. Next in line is always Molecular Immobilization (freezing).
I don't think it's because of Melinda that the vines appeared. It's a possibility though, but I don't think she did.
To Criminally Vulgar: The Rat Demons appeared for the first time in Trial By Magic in season 4. One of them almost killed Paige's friend, Glen. They were also the demons who were busy with the moneying laundering.
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Post by Terry on Apr 11, 2010 9:46:47 GMT
Hum. I don't think the powers keep a pattern. Maybe to some extent, but not always.
1st, the cousins (Grams' mother, then) had the powers of fire, ice and freezing (to some extent), but none of their descendants ever had those powers again.
2nd, Grams had telekinesis and Patty freezing, but then Prue had telekinesis, Piper freezing and Phoebe premonitions. So if the powers kept a pattern, where did premonitions go within the former generation?
I think the powers are more a part of who a person is, than given because of some sort of pattern.
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Temporal Death
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Post by Temporal Death on Apr 11, 2010 9:54:44 GMT
I think the powers are more a part of who a person is, than given because of some sort of pattern. True that. I'd rather have them give her a different power than Charmed ones, if only to see something different done. I also wonder if they've introduced the children of the other COs. Can't wait for Issue #0! That's the one that's going to fill in most of the gaps and answer these trivial questions (hopefully).
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Post by Terry on Apr 11, 2010 11:19:53 GMT
True that. I'd rather have them give her a different power than Charmed ones, if only to see something different done. I remember Constance Burge once saying in an interview the reasons behind the girls' powers. I remember Piper's was because she "wasted" so much time helping others that she had barely any for herself, and Phoebe's was because she had no sense of the future so seeing it would be a blessing. I can't remember Prue's though. Probably to do with how she has to keep ahead of things and so moves them to her will. Can't find the quote, though. And well, Mellie sure can't have any orbing/healing/glamouring ability so we'll see. The powers do tend to remain within the family line, though, even if they don't keep a pattern. But she could have that fire or ice power, if they're keeping to continuity. I seriously don't know, I don't think I'd be bothered if she had a Charmed power, as long as it's not telekinesis. The thing is, I've never really seen them as "Charmed" powers, since we've seen other people/demons use them. No, to me the only Charmed power per say is the Power of Three. I also wonder if they've introduced the children of the other COs. Probably, since in the interview it says, "Have to give Piper, Phoebe, and Paige time to have some of those kids we all saw in the flash-forwards during the series finale." Can't wait for Issue #0! That's the one that's going to fill in most of the gaps and answer these trivial questions (hopefully). Neither can I. My fingers itch to pre-order it but then it means I have to wait for it to be shipped, whereas I could go to an American/British bookstore and buy it the day it comes out! Dilemma! Lol
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Temporal Death
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Post by Temporal Death on Apr 11, 2010 11:39:50 GMT
True that. I'd rather have them give her a different power than Charmed ones, if only to see something different done. I remember Constance Burge once saying in an interview the reasons behind the girls' powers. I remember Piper's was because she "wasted" so much time helping others that she had barely any for herself, and Phoebe's was because she had no sense of the future so seeing it would be a blessing. I can't remember Prue's though. Probably to do with how she has to keep ahead of things and so moves them to her will. Can't find the quote, though. And well, Mellie sure can't have any orbing/healing/glamouring ability so we'll see. The powers do tend to remain within the family line, though, even if they don't keep a pattern. But she could have that fire or ice power, if they're keeping to continuity. I seriously don't know, I don't think I'd be bothered if she had a Charmed power, as long as it's not telekinesis. The thing is, I've never really seen them as "Charmed" powers, since we've seen other people/demons use them. No, to me the only Charmed power per say is the Power of Three. You know, that's something I've been questioning when writing my fics. There were plenty of beings that had TK, Seers/Oracles who had premonition, and Piper's is probably the rarest of them all, but why did they go after the COs? (This is when we're looking at the Charmed-verse without considering Charmed to be a show). I understand the demons that went after the Book and Wyatt, but the Power of Three only existed when all three of them were alive, and I believe the Blondes episode and the one with the Shapeshifters were the only places where the gaining that collective power seemed logical. There had to be Three. So why pursue witches for their powers that could kick your demon ass any day, any time, if you weren't a part of a triad? Someone on this board reminded me that a certain site scans comics and books.
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atlan
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Post by atlan on Apr 11, 2010 14:29:11 GMT
True that. I'd rather have them give her a different power than Charmed ones, if only to see something different done. I remember Constance Burge once saying in an interview the reasons behind the girls' powers. I remember Piper's was because she "wasted" so much time helping others that she had barely any for herself, and Phoebe's was because she had no sense of the future so seeing it would be a blessing. I can't remember Prue's though. Probably to do with how she has to keep ahead of things and so moves them to her will. Can't find the quote, though. And well, Mellie sure can't have any orbing/healing/glamouring ability so we'll see. The powers do tend to remain within the family line, though, even if they don't keep a pattern. But she could have that fire or ice power, if they're keeping to continuity. I seriously don't know, I don't think I'd be bothered if she had a Charmed power, as long as it's not telekinesis. The thing is, I've never really seen them as "Charmed" powers, since we've seen other people/demons use them. No, to me the only Charmed power per say is the Power of Three. Probably, since in the interview it says, "Have to give Piper, Phoebe, and Paige time to have some of those kids we all saw in the flash-forwards during the series finale." Can't wait for Issue #0! That's the one that's going to fill in most of the gaps and answer these trivial questions (hopefully). Neither can I. My fingers itch to pre-order it but then it means I have to wait for it to be shipped, whereas I could go to an American/British bookstore and buy it the day it comes out! Dilemma! Lol If you are going to get it from a comic shop then it would be wise to go or call there soon and have the shop set up a "pull" for you. That is where they put an issue for a customer aside when the books come out. Otherwise they might not order enough copies and you might miss it. That is also the reason the pre order sites give a date to order by.
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Post by Criminally Vulgar on Apr 12, 2010 0:39:19 GMT
Anyone think that maybe it's Melinda's powers? That the vines are happening because of Melinda? Hmm. :/ Not at all. Looking at Piper's first page, Melinda looks very much preoccupied with the sthingy she's playing with. She only starts raising her arms after the vines actually start attacking. Plus, as several people have stated, this vine-like power is not a Warren witch power. It's not even an advancement, so no. I'm convinced that it's demonic. To Criminally Vulgar: The Rat Demons appeared for the first time in Trial By Magic in season 4. One of them almost killed Paige's friend, Glen. They were also the demons who were busy with the moneying laundering. I... know... if you look again, in the first and second pictures of the second panel (so, the first one, chronologically -- the one where the wee person touches the lady's bum) you can see that the people there are fighting, so they'd be expecting someone dying anyway. Ahh, you're right. I guess I overlooked that panel, because I could've sworn that I only saw one fight, and the rest were just bystanders. Hmm... Demon of Illusion? :s lol I remember Constance Burge once saying in an interview the reasons behind the girls' powers. I remember Piper's was because she "wasted" so much time helping others that she had barely any for herself, and Phoebe's was because she had no sense of the future so seeing it would be a blessing. I've never seen that interview before, but the reasoning behind their powers were kinda explained in the first episode. Piper was late coming home to wait for the electrician, thus her time-related power, while Phoebe "had no vision, no sense of the future", thus her power of visions of the future. I remembered Prue's at one point as well, but can't seem to remember it now. >:/ It might be something to do with how she's always pushing people away, first their dad, then Phoebe, etc. but I'm not sure :s And like Terry and Brandon, as much as I would like to see a new power (since it's gonna get pretty redundant with 12 characters basically having the same three powers...), I would prefer them to keep the powers within the family tree, even within those same three powers. Regardless, I would rather the comics not really focus on the children's powers (or even the children) at all, since that'll take away from the girls' story. Maybe a couple of mentions here and there, maybe even a small story or two, just to end ridiculous speculation, but not entire arcs revolving around the kids.
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Post by Nerf on Apr 14, 2010 0:44:23 GMT
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atlan
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Post by atlan on Apr 14, 2010 2:22:40 GMT
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btvsp3
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Post by btvsp3 on Apr 14, 2010 2:27:27 GMT
Well, the thing I didn't like about the show was the ample amounts of (almost) nudity. So, given the reputation of the publisher and this cover then the comics will not be any different. It's beautiful artwork, but very naughty. I'm guessing the plants and forest along with the vines from the first issue means it will be a continuing factor and that plants will somehow be the "big bad".
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racer
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Post by racer on Apr 14, 2010 3:28:20 GMT
I think it's very pretty. I honestly, for some reason, don't really mind the nudity thing. I mean, it is being published by Zenescope and it's not like the sisters are do-goodies all the time; besides, it's just the cover. The two things that I do have a problem with is the hair colors of the girls, and how Piper is doing the "sssh" thing. Phoebe doesn't even looks like she's interested at all. lol.
Oh and I agree with btvsp3 about the plant big bad thing.
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Post by Terry on Apr 14, 2010 9:54:39 GMT
They sure have something with plants... IDK, something tells me it's not actually the official cover. I mean, it's not cut like a cover. And somehow it doesn't look like a drawing but more like a digital image. So. But whatever, I'll not comment on the total nudity of this cover. It is a nice image, however, and I'll leave it to that. Lol Edit: BUT on to the interview: #0 hinted at as a Book of Shadows thingie? Totally kick-ass! I want it NOW! That's what I've been expecting the most! That when the girls check the Book, the comic shows us the pages as though WE were reading it ;D Edit #2: I wonder if something is amiss in the Enchanted Forest/whatever realm the fairies, leprechauns, gnomes, nymphs and all their peers live in? First that wee person that gets killed after they struck a deal then all these plants drawings with clearly a tree involved now...
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Temporal Death
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Post by Temporal Death on Apr 14, 2010 10:32:47 GMT
They sure have something with plants... IDK, something tells me it's not actually the official cover. I mean, it's not cut like a cover. And somehow it doesn't look like a drawing but more like a digital image. So. Actually, I think there's more to the image, and that this is just a preview of sorts. About it being a digital image, many artists, myself included, prefer using a digital medium for drawing. Also, the first cover released with Issue #1 seemed like a "digital image" too. That being said, I love the cover. I think it would be better suited for a Halloween/Fall issue though. And why is Piper's body so lithe? I would have expected hers to be more curvy. And the boobs in general--too small, or is that just me? Hmm, you know, now that you bring it up, they did ditch the CO just before the Ultimate Battle, just as the girls had. If they aren't on good terms, and as mentioned in S5, they are responsible for keeping nature, luck, etc in check, I think bad karma is coming our the sisters' way (as hinted again and again that vanquishing a lot of evil will lead to consequences). I. Just. Can-not. Wait.
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Post by Terry on Apr 14, 2010 11:32:42 GMT
Hmm, you know, now that you bring it up, they did ditch the CO just before the Ultimate Battle, just as the girls had. If they aren't on good terms, and as mentioned in S5, they are responsible for keeping nature, luck, etc in check, I think bad karma is coming our the sisters' way You mean as in, they don't yet realize that the CO were the good guys all along and they (the forest folk) have been set up? Wow, "daft" just got to a new level. Lol (I mean them, not you ) So you think maybe that wee beast was actually hiring that man to go after the ladies? (as hinted again and again that vanquishing a lot of evil will lead to consequences) Aha, I think "hinted" went passé for a good long time Lol They said it in almost every interview. "Girls, you shouldn'ta been so good at your witch thing!" Let's get speculating on that, then: What if all the dark essences of the vanquished demons went to some kind of pool or well, ever-expanding, to the point where some entity gets formed and goes on a rampage? (Much like those evil leftover spirit thingies in "House Call".) Another thing I'm both expecting and worried about is the promised increasing use of magic. I really can't wait to see all that magic in display. What worries me, though, is the probability that they'll use spells less and less frequently, since they'd "hinted" the girls would get yet another power-boost. Charmed without spells is like Charmed without the BoS -- I'd not like that. And now to Phoebe and Coop. If they ever DARE bring Cole back, they better NOT make him the lovesick, suicidal moron from S5 or I'm burning Zenescope down. I'll put up with the boob-job but NOT whiny Cole. Same goes with Prue -- NO Power of Four or I'll force their own books up their arses. Now that's said, I want to be June 30 (Dude, I think we're back to ranting Lol)
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David
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Post by David on Apr 14, 2010 11:32:59 GMT
I love that new cover Not much else I can say about it, but I sure can't wait to get it. And from the interview They seemed to hint at possible problems with Coop and Phoebe which I think was something that will be needed. Their relationship on screen was very happy-happy because in a certain sense it was rushed in order to fit in with the ending of the series and they didn't actually know each other that well, so I'm happy they will be revisiting that. It's actually made me a lot more...confidant that the comic is in good hands, that they are looking at details such as this and continuity seems to be important to them. Also, their BoS comment is very intriguing Thanks for sharing, I'm really looking forward to the comics now more than ever now it seems like they are in good hands.
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Post by Terry on Apr 14, 2010 11:42:36 GMT
Actually, I think there's more to the image, and that this is just a preview of sorts. About it being a digital image, many artists, myself included, prefer using a digital medium for drawing. Also, the first cover released with Issue #1 seemed like a "digital image" too. Yeah, looks like it's official since Mr. Gregory (co-writer) posted it on the official Zenescope Charmed forums. Edit: I realized I never replied to our previous conversation: I remember Constance Burge once saying in an interview the reasons behind the girls' powers. I remember Piper's was because she "wasted" so much time helping others that she had barely any for herself, and Phoebe's was because she had no sense of the future so seeing it would be a blessing. I can't remember Prue's though. Probably to do with how she has to keep ahead of things and so moves them to her will. Can't find the quote, though. And well, Mellie sure can't have any orbing/healing/glamouring ability so we'll see. The powers do tend to remain within the family line, though, even if they don't keep a pattern. But she could have that fire or ice power, if they're keeping to continuity. I seriously don't know, I don't think I'd be bothered if she had a Charmed power, as long as it's not telekinesis. The thing is, I've never really seen them as "Charmed" powers, since we've seen other people/demons use them. No, to me the only Charmed power per say is the Power of Three. You know, that's something I've been questioning when writing my fics. There were plenty of beings that had TK, Seers/Oracles who had premonition, and Piper's is probably the rarest of them all, but why did they go after the COs? (This is when we're looking at the Charmed-verse without considering Charmed to be a show). I understand the demons that went after the Book and Wyatt, but the Power of Three only existed when all three of them were alive, and I believe the Blondes episode and the one with the Shapeshifters were the only places where the gaining that collective power seemed logical. There had to be Three. So why pursue witches for their powers that could kick your demon ass any day, any time, if you weren't a part of a triad? I think it runs deeper than that, if you’ll excuse the pun. The individual powers (tk, stasis, premonitions, etc.) are part of their inherent witch nature but from the person they are, as we’ve discussed. The Power of Three, though, is the sum of all the magic that have coursed through the bloodline for so many generations. I see the Po3 as some kind of cancer (no offense, it’s just a metaphor), that has attached itself to the individual powers (i.e. limbs) of the sisters. Remove the powers, you get the Power. If you manage to absorb all three powers, then you absorb The Power. You don’t need three entities to host the Power if you can handle it, all you need is to get the powers where the Power of Three lodged itself. A proof that it’s not the individual powers that matter is that, the Power of Three worked just fine with Paige’s travesty of TK. It’s the powers as a whole, their essence, that matters. Paige just needed to harness her part of the Power, as she did when she held hands with her sisters under the chandelier, and she was a Charmed One. All that to say it’s not the individual powers that make them the Charmed Ones, but to “become” the Charmed Ones, or steal the Power of Three, you have to take those. Neither can I. My fingers itch to pre-order it but then it means I have to wait for it to be shipped, whereas I could go to an American/British bookstore and buy it the day it comes out! Dilemma! Lol Someone on this board reminded me that a certain site scans comics and books. I should probably remove that link since linking to "illegal" sites is against the rules, but who here has never visited that site? I’ve actually saved all the Magazines and books there, just never got the chance to read them… Do you really think they’ll put the comics, though? Considering it’s on hiatus…
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Temporal Death
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Post by Temporal Death on Apr 14, 2010 14:11:19 GMT
I don't understand how it's a cancer, but I think I get what you're saying. Mind if we move this discussion to a new thread?
Yeah, I don't think we'll actually have any legal issues unless we host it on our own server (that is, upload the comic pages as attachments), or if we directly link to the file/torrent. Mentioning a site hosts it will get us into no trouble at all. That should be known.
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Post by Terry on Apr 14, 2010 14:31:56 GMT
Mind if we move this discussion to a new thread? Done: shadowtales.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=cd&thread=522&post=8236Side note: It's actually the second time that the "sourcebook" is hinted as a Book of Shadows issue: In this interview, Editor-in-Chief Tedesco called Issue #0, "a special Spellbook preview" Though, I should probably prohibit any talk of "scans" -- you people need to buy the issues so the issues sell enough that they'll make deals overseas and I can translate the books to French!
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