Episode 2.06 Lady In Red

[Reyn]

2.06 - Lady In Red



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Rated T for teen

The Charmed Ones finally learn about the mysterious Founders when they are tasked with protecting one. Meanwhile, when the sisters discover a woman using supernatural abilities to seduce and kill men, they must race to stop her before someone they know becomes her next victim.

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Devil's Daughter

[Phoenixlighter]

My 2.06 Review:

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Season 2 Episode 6- Lady in Red Review

-Okay, the synopsis gets me thinking about “She’s a Man, Baby, A Man” so I’m wondering if I can expect to see any similarities. Off to reading and I’m looking forward to discovering who the Founders are.
-Whoa, so are the Elders known as the Founders here? That’s an interesting turn of events.
-Hmm. So Phoebe is still connected with the lusting demon. Very cool. So far though, based off this, this episode is probably the closest to any of the other season 2 episodes, but based off of the way you described her, she’s already different. Seriously, fangs? Serpentine eyes? Cool.
-I loved the scene with the Founder and how the ritual is different to the one that we saw with Ramus in Season 5.
-Minor, but during Prue and Ryan’s first scene, Prue says she’s going to get a few hours of sleep at the manor and then meet him for his lunch date and then tells her that she’ll see him tomorrow, upon leaving. Just a little continuity issue, I guess.
-I missed the Linespeakers and I’m glad that the Man will finally be able to share some stuff with Phoebe. I’m extremely curious who this order is affiliated with as well as their objective. And dodging a Founder (almost called him an Elder) should be interesting. I’m sure that I can expect that he’ll ask Phoebe to keep his presence silent if need be, but I wonder when she’ll be allowed to discuss him with her sisters. I feel like it’s only going to mean bad news if she tells her sisters too late.
-Hmm. So what Balus told the sisters is interesting about how all Founders revoke their other powers, excluding orbing. I know you gave the reason why, but I can’t help but be curious as to why they would give up healing, sensing, glamouring.
-Oh wow. So Leo finally told Piper that they’re not supposed to be together. I’ll be honest that I don’t have any issue with reading this storyline again, just as long as the new plot episodes are generally as fresh as ever, which I’m more than sure you’re capable of.
-Lol, I loved the exchange between Phoebe and Balus with the “Who Weekly” and incorrectly half done crossword puzzles.
-Hmm. The next summary synopsis (I couldn’t help myself) says that Phoebe receives a new power, which I’m extremely excited about. But it has me thinking since the Man called her unique, as well as the type of people they tend to (Elementals) maybe that’ll be some sort of connection to Phoebe’s new power. As far as I can tell, maybe destiny brought Candice (I believe) together with Phoebe as some sort of power tie. Maybe I’m stretching, but as far as I’m concerned, it’s fair speculation.
-I love all scenes with Balus as the way the sisters interact with him is just hilarious. Piper searching under him for an earring was just too good. And how Prue joked about testing her own personal power on him.
-(Observation) Where’s the Lady in Red? Not that I’m not enjoying the rest of the episode, but I expected to see more of the Lusteress (I definitely made that word up) in Red. Though I guess this will go to show that the sisters may have to part from Balus to take her on, so I’m cool with it now. Back to reading.
-Okay, this is the first time I remember being confused, but there was the scene with Mrs. Harris and the Man and I originally took it to be the actual “The Man” that I’m taking a fan favorite liking to.
-Interesting way of introducing the victim husband to Piper and Phoebe. I’m surprised that Phoebe didn’t initially look at the photograph when Piper first received it, being the curious spirited woman she is.
-For the first time, instead of reading the BoS entry in the script, I actually read it from the image. Nice job by the way.
-I was glad to see Madam E’s name, but surprised at her portrayal in this scene. She actually showed that she cared about the life of the Devil’s Daughter. Nice to see she’s not just a pure b1tch with the intention of killing. She’s a pure b!tch with the intention of killing who cares.
-Phoebe’s premonition is definitely something to think about. Is Jackson truly a victim or just conversing with The Devil’s D informing her that he works for Madam E.
-The battle between Prue and Piper against Devil’s D was good. The action was sufficient enough for me just imagining Prue sling the door off its hinges and watching it smack into Devil’s D and then throwing her into another wall. Good stuff.
-Im glad the potion worked on Jackson, but I can’t help but wonder other possibilities like some magic that protects him from that. Then again, Ryan was extremely suspicious. I don’t know if we’re supposed to be thinking it’s him or if he’s just jealous. Either way: He now knows that Prue and Piper are witches. Kick @ss!
-Balus really has a stick up his robe. He could’ve at least thanked them.
-TWIST! What the hell was the ruse of Balus really for? Omg. And Leo’s old charge? Holy crap. Too many mysteries building!!! I love this story.
-Okay, I have new speculations on Madam E. I was thinking about past demons the Charmed Ones killed and I was thinking of Hecate, Queen of the Underworld. They didn’t necessarily vanquish her, but banished her into the jeweled athamae, but with the whole tie-in of the “Devil’s” Daughter, it got me thinking that in some ways they were all related in some demonic circle. You’re probably laughing at my speculations, but I take complete joy and some pride in these guesses.
-I’m also glad to see Madam E. take her anger out on the Suit. Which brings me to my next speculation…what if she used to be an Elemental? That worked with the Man’s order? Her fire power could easily be viewed on a demonic power, but what if it’s beyond that?
-Btw, nice cover up about why the Devil’s D. died with the whole “save her” or “reveal himself”. It could easily be either one, but I’m swaying more towards Ryan.
-Hmm. Mysterious ending to a DAMN good episode. Nice job, Reyn. Definitely a good episode to end the year with.


Favorite Quotes:

Piper: I may not be a practicing chef, but I still have a chef’s curiosity.
(I simply loved it.)

Woman: That was a tickle compared what’s to come.
(I could actually see Madam E. saying this.)

Piper: I bet there isn’t a Mrs. Balus.
(Very Piper)

Phoebe: Those robes must cost a fortune in dry-cleaning.
(Lol. Hilarious way to break the ice between the two.)

[Lexi]

here's my review for this episode.

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Ok, so "them" are the Founders, that's what Leo told Phoebe in seaosn 1 if I'm not mistaken. Balus is an interesting fellow I did like the scenes with him and the sisters, especially with Phoebe when they are looking through the tabloid magazines. I really like the way you're writing Phoebe, she started off as my least favourite sister but that is slowly changing.

The demon was interesting, she reminded me a lot of the Succubus which I'm guessing is where you got the idea from. I liked it though, a new take on an original idea is sometimes nice to read rather than just having whole new episodes!

I now wonder what makes Phoebe so unique and is it just her or are the other sisters under the "man's" watchful eye. He's growing on me even more and I could see the two of them together. It makes me wonder whether you will set Phoebe up with a demon, like the original show.

You really have me wondering what Ryan's secret is. Is he really evil or is he some sort of demon hunter? I'm really intrigued about his history and who he is. Why was he at the bar watching Callia? I really thought that Jackson was going to turn out to be the agent that M.E had keeping an eye on Piper but now I'm starting to wonder if it is Ryan. Part of me hopes not because that would mean eventually he needs to be vanquished and I like him. Then again, I also like M.E and I have a feeling that she'll be vanquished at some point.

For some reason, the vanquish seemed a little easy for me. I'm not too sure why though. Callia just didn't seem to put up a fight. You did leave it with a strange cliffhanger of a third man. Is Callia really vanquished or did she manage to get away somehow? Or maybe there's someone else out there that will show up in the next episode. Hmm....I'll have to wait to find out unfortunately as I will have to get on with some work now.

[Reyn]

Hey Lexi!

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Yes - that's right. The Elders are The Founders in BAM - I decided to keep the same name as was used in Season 1 for continuity purposes. Plus I always prefered The Founders as a name - and it fits into my interpretation of the magical community and prehistory much better anway. Balus will be back in later episodes - he's too much of a grouch not to have around! Very happy you like Phoebe - surprisingly I enjoy writing her, despite her being my least favourite character as well.

The Devil's Daughter was definitely my take on the Succubus from "She's A Man, Baby, A Man" or whatever that season 2 episode was called. I really liked the idea behind the Succubus, but I didn't feel it was implemented well in Charmed's second season. So I wanted to see what I could do with it by tweaking it and making it a little different.

What makes Phoebe unique has been mentioned in past Charmed episodes. It was mentioned albeit briefly, but it has been mentioned in Season 1. As to the Man - he and Phoebe definitely have an interesting relationship, and although he does hide his face and is a bit of a mystery, he is not a demon. Quite the opposite, in fact

I must admit Ryan is my favourite character, so never fear - he will not be going anywhere, at least for the full season 2! He's been in every episode so far, and he will be in every episode of the season, giving me plenty of time to explore just who he is and what his secret is. I've also placed hints within each episode to help with his reveal - so if you are of the mind you can check out the episodes and see if you can find those hints before the big 'this is who Ryan is' moment.

The vanquish was definitely one of the easier ones for the sisters - mainly due to the fact that they caught Callia completely unaware. Had they decided to attack her on her own terms - it would definitely have been a different story. Glad that you caught the hint at the end of the episode - about the third victim. That's definitely one of the major hints relating to one of the main plot arcs of the season.

Always wonderful to see a review from you, Lexi! Have fun with work (if that's possible).

[Terry]

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeview:

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oh, since when can’t Whitelighters lie? Lol! Liar!

I really like how you’re keeping the tradition of “everything happens for a reason”. Piper being left alone in the restaurant to witness the Devil’s Daughter – yeah, right, told yah I was too curious, I already know who the lady in red is lol Anyway, it’s really good
The fact that it is Piper and that it’s also Piper that appears on the episode’s header makes me think it’ll be Leo that’ll be endangered by the demon. Well, it could also be Darryl… and Ryan… and Jackson… and any man they actually know… Ok, I read on! Lol

Very descriptive scenes, as always

Oooh, cooool! Phoebe’s experiencing a mind link with the demon like she did with the Succubus, then ?

“You're not going to hit me with that, are you?”
I did chuckle lol

This may sound a stupid question lol but, if the Founders aren’t supposed to witness how their re-energising ritual is done – whom is it done by? Though that’s cool that they’re not pictured as almighty as on the real Charmed, that was quite annoying, considering they weren’t doing ANYTHING -_-

“And who's the old guy in the dress?” That had me laugh

I just realised something! Prue may be the first one to have ever seen Death – but she had never seen an Elder! I can’t wait to see her reaction!

Why would Ryan look as if he didn’t believe her? Unless he Knows she lies…

We have discussed the Third and I know enough but they do seem really…unfriendly, their love for conspiracies must be part of that.

But oooooooh! We’re gonna learn some secrets

Trustee – overseer: you do have a very extensible vocabulary

I can totally understand “the man’s” desire to return to the hunt! He is a great – and powerful – fighter, from what we’ve seen already.

Powerless Elders…That’s sure unusual. I got to get used to the idea, but it’s sure a good idea ^^

Love how Piper and Balus fight hehe well, talk fight, but still

“Those robes must cost a fortune in dry-cleaning.” Phoebe! Lmao!

Piper’s so right. Sure the Founders are nothing like we used to know the Elders, but they did keep the same annoying ways lol

Aha! Go Piper! Freeze the bad man! Hehe (freeze the Founder, while you’re at it lol)

Man, the guy is so annoying! I wish Piper could blow him up lol

Yay, it’s answer time Well, so far, didn’t learn so much!

Shadow manipulation? I want to see that. Also, I want a freaking NAME lol

If that’s not one declaration of love!

Gee, Balus scared me! Lol I thought he was frozen XD

PRUE
I wouldn't mind testing to see if he's immune to my power right now.
BALUS
(still with eyes closed)
I heard that!
Hehehe

It’s so Piper to not want to hurt people, very good!

Are those dreams really just an extension of her power??

Oh, M. Ex’s (wondered when we’d be seeing her!) showing emotions? *dies* lol

Weren’t there more than one Suit? Like 3 or something?

Nooo! You can’t be doing this! Always finding a way to include both Jackson and Ryan! That’s not fair!!! Darn!!!

Well, now it’s clear that Ryan isn’t all trustworthy. He may Not be the agent, but he certainly hasn’t come all clean… Although he looks suspiciously enough an agent…

“Things sure are back to normal.” Poor Piper :/

I like that you kept the sight of things we saw the “Heavens” to be.

WHAT THE HELL! It was all just an act! There is nothing as such as a re-energising ritual, then? Damn it, I did believe it! -_-
From what we’ve discussed, I have a sudden thought that Founders are not that different in their doings from the Third…

But it’ll be good to see the girls work alone although I wish they can still be together at times.

What previous charge of Leo? The girl form 1.21? or someone we never saw?

Wow, that’s some evil woman…

I wonder why we learn of the third victim…
And I wonder what’s behind the officer’s comment of “always come in threes”… like that’s any relevant?

What’s the deal with the third man?? That can only mean Callia had already killed her third victim so Jackson was just not her victim… :s confusing lol

Looking back, this episode was very interesting in matter of clues

[Dark Witch.]

I am here to review episode 6!

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-I am interested to see the connections you make to the Elders. maybe they are nothing alike, maybe they are all the same. i am intrigued by their name and what powe they may hold. As for the date, I remember this clearly from...i dont remember exactly, but it is in season 2 lol, but much later. ehhe.

-I have a feeling this episode will be very similar to "She's a Man Baby A Man!". I wonder what differences you shall create for this episode!

-Ah, so this is a combination of "Wicth In Tights" and "She's A Man", nicely done. and the Founders are just the same as the Elders, but now as The Founders, interesting. Very original.

-I was wrong. I wonder what this ritual will be like if we get to see it. Very very interesting. nicely done. As for the demon, I wonder how that will turn out too.

-Hmm, Prue and Ryan's relationship is heating up. I still think that Ryan is the guy who is the spy for Madame executive. I may be wrong, but I feel that is what is going to happen. Who knows, I may be wrong...

-The man still is a great secret to me, I wonder what shall be revealed and what this order is about...

-I agree with Prue and Piper, the FElders were always the ones hwo did things the hard way, and I wonder what Balus has to gain with the Charmed Ones using their power for his protection...

-That was a nice scne with Piper and leo's problems. it is the relationship all over again with being unable to be talked about. But, it is nice to see a difference in that the Elders do not know of their relationship...yet.

-My God, Balus is like the unwanted house guest from hell. Why would a Founder be so annoying and self centered? You would think that being one for the goodness he would have more heart lol.

-That scene with Phoebe and the man was really cool. I wonder what this group is, and why they deal with specific witches as opposed to the grand design. What other forces are out there that were never explored by Charmed, and WHAT makes this group want to seperate themselves so much from the Founders? So many questions...lol.

-Hmm, we never got o see if an Elder ws immune to witch's powers, but I would like to see if that could work, I wonder if that ever happened before...I mean, I know that Leo was not immune to Piper'e powers even when he was an Elder, but he was always the exception. Anyways, I am enjoying this episode a lot, great job!

-Hmmm, I wonder when this demon will be handled. i know Phoebe has the connection, but she can't be the demon...can she?

-The banter between the sisters and the Founder is nicely done. I like it alot. lol.

-Hmm, interesting, so it couldn't be Phoebe, but Phoebe has a connection with the demon, but how?I am interested to see how...

-That was an interesting explaination scene. The Devil's Daughter is a great original demon, Nicely done. Also, with Phoebe's powers extending to the subconcious was a great power growth. That was a good original too.

-Jackosn is the next victim huh? Well, w'll see how that turns out. Also with madame Executive being the one who is friendw ith the Devil's Daughter? It seems interesting to show how demons have personalities as well as relationships with one another. That was somethign we never got to see in the real Charmed after Cole. he was the closest thing to showing us the inside of the enemy's lair.

-I was right! Ryan is the demon who is the spy and is to help Callia. ha! I like it when i am right, but I think you made it obvious for a reason .

-Good vanquish. too bad that Jackson didn't get to remember. he seemed like he would have been a good friend to Piper, but I guess knowing the secret is too much for one person to bare.

-So the whole plot of the ritual was a lie and that each of the sisters were being trained to deal with things individually. Interestign tactic. I liked that a lot. nicely done. I am also wondering who this other charge was that Leo did not take care of well.

-Wow, madame Executive is pretty powerful. it shall be itnerestign when the Charmed Ones fight her...when that will happen, i will be excited to read it.

-Who was the man? Was it Jackson? I hope we find out the next episode!

All in all a 10/10. I liked it a lot, and was a great enjoyment. I finally got you another review after all this time. I hope you like it .

[melindacharm]

Like it!!

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scene 1- very compelling, good I like how it played out. With Leo / Piper than to the woman in red. However I am wondering, did you copy the episode in season 2 where Phoebe see's the seductrice?. Is'nt it the same thing however different plot line with a different demon. However the goals of the demon are the same? Wondering.

scene 2- lol. I liked this one. Phoebe with the hair dryer!! haha!! you couldnt come up with anything else. Thats funny. Poor Leo though. Another thing is, are the founders another " Elder" for you guys. In this season?. Like they stand for something different but are they suppose to hold the same mantal?. Will they be the same sort of burden and try to seperate Piper / leo?. Sorry my thoughts are getting the best of me. Also another thing. Is Phoebe expected to get her levitation power? or will it be other powers kicking in. Poor Ryan, I sorta feel bad for the guy.Its like he took up Andy's place. Being always put second..


scene 3- Is the man in love with Phoebe? Does he want to be more than just a messanger?. I think he is getting to not like his position but like Phoebe. Wanting to do what he was really meant to do. Wanting to know more and be truly open with Phoebe regardless of the costs.. Am I right?


scene 4- MANOR- PARLOR ROOM - DAWn

I like this scene very much. Piper is very bold to be asking these questions, I admire that but it is very risky. She seems frustrated already and barely knows the guy lol. Phoebe's response is funny too.

Scene 5- I feel bad for Piper, always having to sacrifice something " for the greater good." Its sad. These " founders" are just like the elders.

scene 6- lol whats famushed? and why does Balus think her knows everything??

scene 7- I am beginning very much to love the Phoebe / Man relationship. It is mysterious, loving, open and dangerous all in one. I like it very much.

scene 8- Lol!! I love the sisters response to Balus. Especially Piper. However Prue was very funny as well. They both made a nice combo.

scene 9- This demon, or whatever it is categorized in. " Lady in red" Is totally trying to hit on people lol. She is very dedicated to her job I find. She wouldnt be succeeding if she wasnt.

scene 10- Its funny how Prue trys to be friendly towards Balus, however he doesnt care about her attempts. Its as if its all business. I dont see what the point was of him staying in there lives if he will just be a burden.

scene 11- I like it how Phoebe is all the sudden interested in the relationship between this innocent and her boyfriend. Who died. She had a premonition of them. Well done, I find it was played out good.

scene 12- lol!! poor Prue always stuck with Balus. However I did find that the description of the " Lady in Red" Was extremely professional. It was good. Very Charmed like.

scene 13- It is weird to see Madame Executive, as the type to have close friends. I never pictured her like that. Never the less, she and this " Devil's daughter" Do seem to have alot in common. Maybe the scene does make sense if you look at it in that way.

scene 14- In my opinion the Jackson thing was obvious. I mean what else could it be?.

scene 15- You had me going for a moment there. I thought the woman in red would eat Ryan or something. Lol. Very cool twist of events.

scene 16- What ive noticed is that no matter what shocks either Phoebe / Piper, Prue is always there. Wide eyed and in control. She does not scare easily.

scene 17- not much to say.. Except im getting the feeling Ryan is evil. Like he is working behind with the other demons. Maybe to get to Prue.

scene 18- What happenned with Leo's previous charge? and I am assuming that in the future episodes the sisters will have a seperate task concerning there skills that do not depend on the power of three?

scene 19- I am now wondering is Madame Executive related in anyway to Andy? Maybe she is his mother?. Im not sure. Also I like the evil being played around in this scene. It is a consequence I expected her to give. Poor guy though.

scene 20- will the last man be appearing again in upcoming episodes or is he just a victum?

[Reyn]

New reviews! Thankyou! Some comments:

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Lady In Red was my version of the 'She's A Man, Baby, A Man' episode from season 2 - so Phoebe's mindlink with the demon is a shout-out to that episode. I really didn't like the 'real' episode - mainly because they dressed Shannen up like a man and she really didn't look good (in my opinion she looked exactly like that Teacher's Aide on Veronica Mars season 3, but that's another story).

The Founders hardly do anything at all, do they? I always used to imagine them as call centre workers - something happens to a magic practitioner, and they dispatch a whitelighter to help them. But you never see (at least in the first few seasons) what it is they do and why they are so important. A little spoiler for upcoming episodes - I'm hoping to change that so the girls will know exactly what they do - and perhaps even get to visit 'up there' a little earlier than they did in the real charmed.

Why does Ryan look like he doesn't believe her? Because Ryan knows a lot more about her than she thinks he does

The Third are an interesting group - and the linespeakers (or two of them at least) are rather unfriendly. But they aren't the entirety of the group, and there are others who are very nice people. Arcas, I feel is a nice guy, and Candice is a nice girl. We'll see more of them as the season goes on, but I can guarantee there will be at least another 3 'Third' members revealed in the next few episodes.

Heh. It took me ages to find a suitable word for the Arcas/Phoebe relationship. Trustee seemed to fit - and I think you'll see why by episode 2.16

Phoebe's dreams aren't something I've specifically gone into, but I will say that they are an extension of her power - but not in the way you think. Her premonition power will have another extension by the end of the season, though - and that is not it Geez - there's some spoilers in this reply!

There are several 'suits', yes - but there is one main 'leader' and he is the one we see whenever the character of Suit is mentioned The others are around when M.E wants them to capture or kill someone

I'm sure someone has a re-engerisation ritual somewhere, just not the Founders! And yay - I'm glad you mentioned about the Founders not being that much different in their dealings to the Third - that is something i'm going to be focusing on later in the series, considering the two groups don't exactly see eye to eye on things.

The previous charge of Leo's is not the girl we saw in 1.21, and that's all I'll say about that!

The focus on the third victim is important and you are right with what you say. Again - not revealing anything else!

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Yep - The Founders are The Elders, just with the name that was used in Season 1. I don't know why Charmed mentioned them in Season 1 as The Founders and then changed their name to The Elders in the second season. But for continuity's sake, I'm keeping their name as The Founders.

Poor Ryan - everyone thinks he's the bad guy! He's not that bad, is he?

Balus is quite the character - he was so much fun to write! Because he really is, as you mention, the houseguest from hell. He'd have you gnashing your teeth within the first few minutes of meeting him. And the sad thing is, that's exactly how he is all the time. Noxious old man! Thankfully the other Founders aren't as cantankerous as he is.

So many questions about the Man and his order! Hopefully by the end of the season you'll have all the answers! There's quite a lot to get through between now and then, though.

Phoebe's powers are indeed getting stronger, allowing her to do more with them than she has previously. I'll be enhancing her base power of Premonitions quite a lot over the season, so by the end of BAM, she'll be a premonition getting fiend!

Madame E was indeed friendly with The Devil's Daughter - they were very close friends, in fact. Callia was able to understand what Madame E was going through, and the two bonded. I wouldn't mind revisiting their relationship - showing how they knew eachother and how they interacted. Webisode idea!

Ryan is a demon eh? Are you sure about that? Really sure?

Ahh yes - Leo's other charge. They feature very prominently in the season Leo certainly messed up with that one, but the extent of his blunder is unknown even to him (and certainly to the other Founders). If they knew what he actually did - Leo wouldn't be a whitelighter anymore.

Who was the man who was killed? Just some random guy we don't know. Who he was isn't important - the fact that he was the third victim is

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Lady in Red was inspired by the season 2 episode 'She's A Man, Baby, A Man,' but I wanted to take the episode in a different direction. So this episode was my way of putting a different spin on a Charmed idea. They do share similarities, but my version takes a different approach and incorporates different aspects.

The Founders are exactly the same as the Elders, just using the name that Leo called them by in the first season. I don't know why charmed changed their name, but I'm keeping with the continuity and using the same name. Will they try and separate Piper and Leo? Probably if they knew about them Phoebe will not be getting her levitation power - at least not at first. She'll be given a different power to the ones she got in the original charmed.

The Man definitely wants to be honest with Phoebe - he's upset at having to hide who he is from her, and he doesn't agree with his superiors view that keeping his identity and his purpose for being assigned to her secret is the best way to deal with things. If it were up to him, he'd tell her everything.

Famished is when you are very hungry

Very happy to hear you like the Phoebe/Man relationship! It's one I absolutely adore writing, and after Prue and Ryan it's my second favourite relationship. I think one of the fascinating things with the Phoebe/Man relationship is she's so open with him, whereas he's so secretive. I like the dynamic that creates.

Happy to hear you enjoyed the description of the Devil's Daughter - I try to describe as much as possible without going too far in-depth and breaking the flow of the scene. It's hard to balance with script format.

Prue is definitely not easily flummoxed. She's very much in control of both her feelings and her emotions. She's the grounded sister - the one you can always count on. It's one of the things I love about her character.

Leo's previous charge is very important to the series - and will be one of the major plot developments towards the latter episodes. I can't say anything else or it would spoil it - but Leo definitely messed up, and his actions cost somebody something very dear to them.

Madame E is definitely not related to Andy She has her secrets and most of her backstory is detailed in 2.11, but she has no affiliations with Andy. That's not to say she doesn't share a history with another character, though

The last man won't be appearing in any episodes - his identity was irrelevant. The important thing about that scene was showing there was a third victim. That fact brings another scene that happened into question.

Again, thanks guys! These reviews keep me writing - I appreciate all the comments and questions you send my way!

[melindacharm]

answers Done!!

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Well I liked it, I agree that they could have done Shannon's dressing up a bit better but I mean they tried and you gotta give them credit for that.

Nice, I like that Idea alot, we dont really know what they do but I want the charmedones to visit the Founders soon. I think in the real charmed they only found out about the elders in what season 2 / 3 near the end or random episodes??

Thats a bit creepy, how does he know more about Prue than she does herself? unless Ryan too has some sort of connection to the charmedones through past events.

Right, I do find both Arcas and Candice to be super nice. More Candice though and Arcas has that mystery thing still going on even though he is trying to open up what he can.. Hard to say. Though I can say I am interested very much in seeing a third member. Maybe this one can be more aggressive. Maybe even against helping others.

Trustee.. HA! thats far from where I am 2. 16 , but I guess I can wait and I think I know why that word..

YEAY!! I love spoilers. Ha!! and I think I know what you mean but not 100 %. I think her dream powers will maybe allow her a connection to another time. As for her premonitions im very excited to see what you can come up with for an extension to that there are many.

okay, so there again we have an Arachey. Spelled that completely wrong but categories. M. E. works as the boss, she informs the Suit, he has other workers as well.

cool, I want to see that. I wonder if and why that was done to work out the way it has. Maybe there is a chance they can achieve something together.

Lol! havent read 2. 21 yet,

I knew it. Im getting good and finding your hidden secrets.

I like that, which episode in season 1 did they mention them as the founders?. Also what may have hapenned was that as they were moving on in the series the people who wrote the show wanted to modernize it and so put important season 1 info and put it aside. Its what they did in season 4 as well to complete the newer look.

Ryan, wow... What to say what to say?? I dont know.. He's not evil in that bad he's just to me too good, and TOO good never ends up being good for long. Its almost a fluke.

Yes, that would be something. The founders being like him. However he does remind me alot of the lady in charmed. The Elder who was with Leo and kept speaking Elder talk. Like random sounds. Cant remember her name for the life of me.

lol true true, dont mean to push. Although I like the suspense.

I cant wait to see Phoebe's reaction when she recieves her first premonition. Another thing is, will you be putting her empathy / premonition power to work in one or something like that. I noticed you mentioned a telepathy / empathy in a previous episode.

GREAT!! I made you have an episode idea. I too would love to see the two bonding in the past.

Fine Ryan is not a demon, just a very annoying perfect man that is getting me more upset than the MAN himself. Nobody is that perfect and not when he's a mortal anyways. Which is what I think. I am still going on about him having something up his sleeve and I feel like its far from innocent.

Was it a Piper thing? Like he left the innocent for her or he ended up somehow not to prevail because he was distracted?.

ok random character ha. Didnt know..

I bet your episode does turn different storylines, plots and aspects. Come to think of it your doing very amazingly well. Turning this season into your own.

NOOOOOOOOO!! I dont want Piper / Leo seperated but I dont agree with how there turning out so im in a twist. I wonder.. So you will definately be keeping Phoebe as the passive sister?. Like mostly passive powers but with the new one you gave her in the place of her levitation?

I dont really believe that. You see as Arcas is he is getting to know Phoebe. Getting to be use to the fact of getting things from her that he wouldnt be able to straight out. I think he likes having this bond with her that even her sisters dont have. Thats why I think he wouldnt be straight and honest with her.

yes thanks, I'm not reading as much anymore so my definitions are getting poor.

Interesting.. I like that Dynamic too. Obviously that too is done for a reason but it creates a spark that no other relationship had. Where as the Prue / Ryan relationship is out in the open for everyone to see yet they have the personal secrecy that nobody would be worried about but should.

Yes the balancing is hard no doubt about that and you do it very well. I like how you make the episodes its harder than people would think.

Its something I love about her character too. However what amazes me about her is that strangers / demons can get to her so much more than her actual family. What ive noticed that when a demon has vital information connected to her past it gets to her more than when her sisters bring up issues and she shrugs it off.


owwwww. I like that. The costing someone something dear to them. I will look for that.

DAMN! I thought I was so close with the Andy thing but now that you mentioned it and I think about it its true. He was nowhere in her past recollections. Dont need to tell me the character just tell me if its a main one or someone on the side? ex: The Man vs Darryl.

One last thing unrelated to the episode. Can you send me the fanfic I sent you?. Like pm me a copy cause I lost it in my computer when we were cleaning.

[Ren]

SPOILER: Click to show

Again, the opening was grabbing. I liked the overlap between Piper and the crazy demon chick at the restaurant, and I’m pretty pumped to see how it develops. The way Phoebe dreamed about the attack in the same way she dreamed about the Succubus was interesting. I wasn’t really that big a fan of ‘She’s a Man, Baby!’… I think it’s one of those episodes I’ve only seen once. The most exciting part for me was the fact that The Cranberries performed in it; they’re still one of my favourite bands. Anyway, you’re always all over the crazy twists… this should be fun.

You’ve done a good job of capturing that awkwardness that always accompanies an encounter between Leo, the girls, and the Founders. Leo is always on edge, because he’s stuck between two important groups in his life that don’t always see eye to eye. He feels compelled to try and defend both parties, and because of that, oftentimes he ends up pissing off one or both. The whole “split loyalty” thing really takes its toll on the guy.

Leo
(with awe)
It is the highest honour any whitelighter can aspire to.

That makes me nervous. Truly. Oh boy. Also, I can’t exactly put my finger on it, but I get the feeling that there has to be another reason behind Balus’ decision to seek protection from the Charmed Ones. It doesn’t seem like the kind of thing a Founder would simply choose to do without a better reason than the one that he offered. And Leo, in all probability, already knows about it.

Watching Balus interact with the girls is hilarious. I always feel that for the founders/elders, it has been so long since they have had to deal with humans on an intimate, daily basis, they can’t really relate to the world that they’ve sworn to protect. It puts a whole new meaning to the term, “generation gap.” To him, the girls are impulsive and unfocused and impertinent, and to them, he’s arrogant and condescending.

I’m sorry; I completely agree with Piper. I kind of felt sorry for the poor stupid boys that went along with the gorgeous girl, but knowing that the one guy was married? Pffft. Unless she has some crazy siren-esque powers that are enabling her to seduce them, the married guy had it coming. That is EXACTLY what you get for trying to cheat on someone you love. Let that be a lesson to you, dirtbag.

Uh oh, haha. The girls are about to start a personal war with Madame Executive, and they don’t even have a clue. Ohhh dear.

Sigh. Damn it, Ryan! I’m still holding out this vague hope that the agent is Jackson, not Ryan, lol. Although I’m pretty much convinced to the contrary. I guess I’ll see.

Aww. I knew there had to be another reason for Balus coming to the manor. He did raise a valid point though; it is really important that the girls be capable of functioning independent of one another when they have to. And I’m super curious about this backstory that you’re apparently creating for Leo! So many delicious possibilities.

Gotta love Madame Executive figuratively shooting the messenger, haha. Eh. He knew it was coming. That’s what happens when you side yourself with Evil.

I’m not going to question the third, unknown victim Darryl was examining in the closing scene, because I’m sure I’ll get an answer within a couple episodes, and I plan on reading at least one more today. The amount of fan fiction I read/write is directly proportionate to the amount of texts/essays I should be reading/writing, haha. Cruelty, thy name is midterms.