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Post by Reyn on Jun 2, 2008 8:46:15 GMT
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Post by Phoenixlighter on Jun 10, 2008 8:32:15 GMT
My 2.03 review: Okay, I think Im going to do it character by character.
Piper: It's only natural that I do her first considering she's the star of this episode. The whole foundation of it all comes down to her club and all it's rennovating. I did enjoy the Piper centered episode and all her "Bond" references. She's been pretty strong when it came to Leo's return as opposed to "Morality Bites" when she gave him a "Hey, stranger" and that was that. I didn't mind that to be honest, but I dont object to how realistic this was. I liked how in the end she knows the secret passageway and insists on sealing up the wall again.
Leo: Her beau. Im glad that in the end they began to work it out. I'm really not up for more Piper and Leo angst. I think we've seen enough to deserve some alternations and Im glad to see that they're starting fresh. I can put up with arguing, but not every episode. If so, make it fresh as you've been doing with this season. I'm glad we also got to see him play Mr. Whitelighter. Him and Piper were quite passionate in this episode with their words.
Prue: Not much to say about her, except that I miss the usage of her power. I feel that she kinda fell into the background this episode besides her dates with Ryan. It's not so bad though since she dominated the last episode. I am glad to see that her and Ryan are coming along.
Phoebe: Can't say I have any complaints about her, but I did like the scene with her digging up information on the club. That was always Phoebe's use in the show when she couldn't get a premonition. It's a noble contribution as well.
Man...THE Man: Okay, definitely nuetral since he touched the Book. I once used that same idea in an old-never posted story of mine with a stranger removing his page to avoid being recognized. I wonder how Piper knew to keep track of the Book when she realized later that a page was missing. We do have some clue of a name now, though I'll have to look back at it and see what I should make of it. I love how we truly are unraveling a mystery, which is the only reason I actually want to take the time to see if I can figure it out with the clues given as opposed to just *GASP*-ing when it's revealed.
M.E: I love her...and ha, it spells "ME" when placed in initials.
Overall, good episode. I liked the idea behind the Shadow Souls, the vanquishing spell and the spell to summon Robert. You're pretty damn good at them. Im liking the Shadow Soul Dog. Looking forward to him sticking around. Will he? I wonder if the mole is Ryan or Jackson. I'm swaying more towards Jackson. Then again Ryan has had a better chance to observe the sister's behavior. My vote right now is still for Ryan. One thing I loved about this episode is that the Charmed Ones didn't have the chance to put their fingers at someone for unleashing the beasts, besides themselves. You sure added some nice background for the club. I wonder if in the next episode, Piper declares the name as "Alchemy".
Looking forward to the next episode. Seems Phoebe centered. The episode after that seems good as well.
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Post by Jake on Jun 29, 2008 21:09:41 GMT
Jake's 2.03 Review(haha talking about myself in 3rd person!): 2.03 Unearthing Shadows
Teaser: I really liked the teaser. I'm glad there's one sister in a relationship right now, and not with an annoying guy seen on Charmed many times(Dex anyone?). I keep laughing at when Piper says she was never told Prue was going out with James Bond. The scene at club was also awesome, the secret room looks like it's going to be an interesting plot for this episode and I love how Jackson is saying who actually believes in Wendigos and stuff, anyway very good teaser.
Act One: This act didn't leave a single bone in my body bored. The beginning was awesome, and I love how you have the characters down pat, since whenever Prue is not around Piper is usually the one to take things on, and the hidden room and trap door leading to the hallway is also creepy, I wonder what the shadows are. Haha, I love how Prue makes her entrance into the kitchen knowing Piper and Phoebe were watching her as she came back from the date. The ending scene was also interesting, I wonder who that ghost man is, perhaps a victim?
Act Two: Very interesting act. I'm glad Leo was in this one, and I love the interactions between him and Piper, there relationship or what's left of it is interesting to read. I also love how this story is moving, and the way you described the shadow figure feeding off of the man, you gotta feel bad for that guy lol. Is it just me or does Ryan seem to be a little to curious about that room and it seemed like he was asking a lot of questions or something, maybe it's just me. And also one of those robe guys erased his page from the BOS, that was a little rude, hehe, and I love how you are doing a "big bad" while having demons of the week, and good ones too, not the ones Charmed had in the later years.
Act Three: Ok, this is by far my favorite act of the episode. I loved the Piper/Leo scene in Piper's office, it was so nicely written, and their emotionalness was written well. And I can't believe Jackson is an agent for Maddame Executive! At first I thought they were talking about Ryan but I'm glad it's not him, but there's always a possibiltity(making an assumption but I shouldn't make those because there's a cheesy phrase that comes after you say it.) And looks like the shadow demon thingy is getting stronger, and stronger, good thing Leo was there to orb Piper out.
Act Four: Great act. I loved the rising action. And now I know there Shadow souls, and that that ghost is a murderer. I wonder what the Line-speakers don't want the sisters to know about them? Oh and just a quick question is that robed man a line speaker? Or working for Maddame Executive or somebody else you can't mention because I must have forgetton with all this studying I'm doing. I also love the ending scene with Leo orbing in and telling the sisters about the Shadow souls when they already have it figured out, haha so hilarious.
Act Five: I'm half and half on Robert, he seems okay but taking others life using dark arts makes him just as bad as the bad guys, but great job on writing this act. I'm really glad you brought Leo into this episode in seems like a mix of Charmed from seasons that Leo was working with them and the early seasons with the Charmed Ones by themself more, good act a little short but still a good act.
Act Six: Great ending,and I'm glad Piper and Leo are officially back on, did I mention I love Piper centric episodes too, this one was great, maybe not as good as the previous but still good. The ending is also great with the secret door and the ghost dog still sticking around, I hope you still keep him around for as long as you do this fic it would be great to see the dog being referenced all the time and the secret room would also be a good hiding place if demon's attack. Ok I'll stop begging since you probably have lots of things figured out. Great episode, great season still, and great story arcs. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2008 4:34:56 GMT
Just letting you know that I read this tonight and my review will be posted tomorrow.
No! Really! It *will* be posted tomorrow.
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Post by Reyn on Jul 14, 2008 4:40:57 GMT
Thanks Phoenixlighter and Jake for reposting your reviews here - means a lot! Es, take your time with the review if you need to - there's no rush  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2008 23:58:24 GMT
No problem. Reyn. As promised, here it is: I decided to do this review similar to how everyone else has been doing it, writing down my comments as I read.TEASER: First the title made me smile, especially because it’s the title of ST’s contest board. I wondered where you guys had come up with that name and to find out that it’s the title of one of the featured fics’ episodes is just cool, especially with how well it fits in with the idea of Shadow Tales. Next, the very first part made me grin: That’s just SOOO Phoebe and SOOOO Piper!’ I’ll just come right out right now and say I didn’t like the idea of Prue wanting to look nice for Ryan. Since we’ve already discussed this, I won’t get into the Prue/Ryan thing again, but just to let you know that I still don't like it. I really, really, don't. But I'll deal with it -- albeit, begrudgingly. Although I got a good laugh out of the James Bond bit, it just doesn't sound like Piper's type of humor, especially since hers borders more on the sarcastic side. This sounded more like Prue or even Paige. I smiled at the idea of what Piper is thinking about Leo. I would’ve preferred a flashback there, rather than simply directions saying what they’re thinking, since the viewer wouldn’t be able to read those directions, but that might have been a bit much for the teaser. Speaking of, I LOVE the idea of the secret room! Now I know why you’re using Piper’s Nightclub as compared to P3, to show that it is indeed different than the nightclub that we know. I think, however, that you would’ve had more impact if you’d cut it off right when you show the room…rather than Jackson saying anything, just have the sisters looking at all of that stuff, center on one piece that might have major importance in this episode or a latter one and then go to credits, and leave Jackson’s response for the beginning of Act One…just a bit more of an OMG teaser-type moment. Because the secret room is quite intriging, I must say. Being the mystery geek that I am, I love stuff like that and have a feeling that it'll end up playing more of a part in this series than just being used in this epi. Also this definitely sets this club apart from the OS and lets that particular location also play a role in the season storyline. I love it when places or objects become a main “character” in the story, the way The Book of Shadows or the Manor did. ACT ONE I loved the banter between Phoebe and Piper…it was so spot on for both of them, even Phoebe’s comment about Prue and her professor and Piper’s reaction to that along with her reaction to the dirty room…our poor neat-freak always getting stuck into going into dirty, dusty places! However, that quickly changed when the idea of who goes down the trapdoor first came up. Piper sounded a lot more like latter-series Piper, after Prue died, or even more like Prue than Piper, while Phoebe was the one who sounded like early-season Piper. Piper’s always the one who was cautious while Phoebs was the adventurous one, always willing to dive right in, while Piper would only stick her toe in. Personally you couldn't pay me enough to go down that trapdoor -- no way, no how! And if this is the same overly cautious, neurotic Piper that we saw throughout Season One, I can betcha she wouldn't be going down there either. At least not voluntarily, anyway. It would either be Phoebe who would go down or they’d wait for Prue. And this: Cue Twilight Zone theme! Creepy supreme!! Once more, this sounds like a Phoebe-line, exactly like when she told Prue that Piper had switched powers in order to save Leo. The next set of lines sounded more like Piper again and that last part: Cue up Twilight Zone theme again!! But, hey, when I think “period” clothing I think like the 1800’s or early 1900’s. The1960’s are *my* period!! That's when I went to high school! Does that make me feel old or what?? But, oh, what a perfect spot for a commercial break! ACT TWO: I smiled over your using “Them” to indicate the Elders. Like you, I also noticed that the Charmed Ones and Leo didn’t start calling them the Elders until Season Three when Kern took over. Just like the Source was a lot more scarier before we saw his face, I thought that the Elders were much more mysterious when they were never seen and a name for them was never given. The whole scene between Piper and Leo was beautifully done. I smiled at the double-mention of “six months” and although I still find it hard to believe that it has been six months since Andy died, I do believe it has been six months since Piper saw Leo. Yeah, illogical, but that’s the way the characters behaved—I believed Piper; I didn’t believe Prue. But that could be my prejudice for Andy and Prue’s deep and abiding love for him (one of my favorite parts of the original Season Two) showing through. I smiled at the two sisters popping in at what could be the worst possible moment…so typical sisters and so typical Charmed! And during the following scene, I could hear Piper say, “Oh, so now we’re Leo’s Angels?” Great reaction by Piper and her sisters towards her reaction, especially Phoebe telling Leo that they’d let him know what they’d find. My favorite line so far: So Prue and Piper! The fact that the man in purple accented black robes could touch the BOS fascinates me. Are you sticking with the mythology that evil can not touch the BOS? Because if you are, then it’s a definite cue. If not, then it’s a red herring… But for now we have a name for this guy…he’s KAL. I like that it’s Phoebe who figures out that a spell might be what’s causing the light in the hidden room…typical Phoebs to think of this, even if it sounds like Prue doesn’t think so. Prue’s saying that they better not read any book or newspaper aloud made me smile. If only she hadn’t… Speak of the devil…Guess who shows up now…should’ve guessed. Go away, Ryan. Go away and stay away! Leave Prue alone! The word is “homey”, Ryan, not “homely”. “Homely” means it’s ugly and I don’t think you meant that, and I’m definitely with Piper…you’re getting on my nerves! And I love Piper freezing you so she can say so! LOL! Sarcastically melancholic! If that doesn’t describe Piper what does, even if Prue has only had Andy and Ryan by this point? And great job bringing the sisters’ thoughts back to Leo…and Phoebe distracting her with Ryan’s suggestion. OH, that last scene!! If that wasn’t creepy, I’m not sure what is! Oh, the sisters have no idea what they’ve just set loose! ACT THREE I truly loved this scene between Piper and Leo until it came to this one: !@#$%^&*()_+_)(*&^%$#@! That !@#$%$#@! line from “Oh, My Goddess”, the first time that Piper made it clear how very little respect she has for what she had in marrying an angel and that she wouldn’t be happy until she got what she wanted…her very own emasculated errand boy! How could she have *already* changed from the Piper in this scene: Piper: So if Daisy's a whitelighter-to-be, doesn't that mean you used to be...
Leo: Human? Yes, it does. I was actually born right here in San Francisco. I had lived here all the way up till I went off to the war.
Piper: You mean, like Vietnam?
Leo: No. World War II. I left med school and enlisted as a medic. I wanted to help save people, not shoot them. The last thing I remember, I was bandaging a soldier's head wound and I felt a sharp pain and the next thing I know I was floating surrounded by whitelighters. They offered me immortality and the chance to help special people like you. I never once ever doubted that I didn't make the right choice. Til I met you. Ever since all I can think is how I'd give it up and have a mortal life again to have a family, grow old...with you.
Piper: Is that possible?
Leo: Yeah, I can become human again, Piper, if you want me to.
Piper: Are you kidding? I want that more than anything. I don't want to lose you again.
Leo: But...
Piper: But then you wouldn't be able to help other witches or other future whitelighters, would you? You couldn't help save the next Daisy. The Piper in that scene from “Love Hurts” is the one I loved and admired so much due to the true love that she showed Leo in this scene. How much it hurt me when she died when Kern got a hold of her. Please don't tell me you're also killing her before she even becomes a mother! At least then she had an excuse—Wyatt! Not a good excuse, mind you, but at least an excuse! Piper in Season Two had an excuse…Leo wanting to use her club in the middle of a concert in order to catch a demon, which is not the same as letting them know that the room they have found has caught the interest of Them. Right now she has NONE! That line from “Oh, My Goddess”; is when I started to hate Piper, leading me to despise her, and finally abhor her. Please don’t let your Piper be that way this soon! Don’t let her turn into or be the selfish, self-centered bitch of latter Charmed! PLEASE don’t give her the same character lobotomy that Kern gave her! PLEASE whack her across the head with a frying pan right now! PLEASE, Reyn, tell me that before you allow them to get married, that you'll PLEASE have an episode that will get it through Piper's thick skull that Leo's other charges are JUST as important, if not MORE important, than she is and his being an angel is more important than his being her boyfriend/husband/whatever. PLEASE! I can’t stand the way Prue’s handling the Andy/Ryan situation. Please don’t make me feel the same way towards the way Piper handles Leo! I want to enjoy this series so much but that would come close to making it unbearable, despite the mystery! *shakes head at self* Typical. Right after that scene, you jumped right back into the mystery and pulled me back in. Oh, it was SO nice to have that scene with Phoebe and Anne right after that horrible scene between Piper and Leo! Perfect way to doing some expositions and letting us know just what the sisters have gotten themselves into. Or have they? Was Robert indeed an evil alchemist or is this another Reyn red herring? I’ve gotta keep reading in order to find out. And I can so imagine Phoebe’s fakey grin! And, oh, goody!! Back to Madame Executive! I was afraid that she wouldn’t be making an appearance! I’m so glad that she has!! Hmmm, sounds like you want us to think that Ryan is The Agent. Although I sincerely hope so--I would SOOO adore watching them vanquish him!--I do get a feeling that that’s just a red herring, because I get the feeling that you think that he’s the perfect guy for Prue, what some fans call your Harry Stu character (a male Mary Sue).. My guess is it’s Jackson who’s The Agent. Not happy about Piper and Leo working together so calmly. How can they so soon after that blow-out of a conversation??? “The ghostly apparition of the man”? What man? The ghost we’re supposed to think is Robert? Why does he want Piper’s hand? The mystery definitely deepens! But I’m glad Leo was able to save her. ACT FOUR First I was disappointed that Piper came out of the orbing only upset by what she had seen, not from the actual orb itself. I loved during Season Two when Leo actually had to hold her into to orb her and how she would be very disoriented for awhile, so Leo didn’t turn into the magical taxicab that Paige became. Of course, since this is an alternate series and since that happened in the original Season 2, it’s not canon for you, so if you want to have that not be a part of your canon, that’s fine. Hmmm. I might have to go back and re-read the end of Act Three. I somehow totally missed that the Shadow Man and his dog were the ones who actually saved Piper. Not quite sure how, but I’ll take Piper’s word for it. Well, at least Prue knows that family and demons are more important than her boyfriend. Learn something, Piper!! Goody! I hope all the “family emergencies” will make Ryan decide to hit the road, like it did for Jack and Dan! Ah ha! So KAL is The Man that I’ve been warned against. I thought it was Robert, but it’s him. Unless he’s Robert, but I don’t think so. In fact, at this point, I’m wondering if The Man is Ryan… Interesting…very interesting. Oh, the mystery deepens! There are certain books that would be detrimental to the sisters’ development and The Man has to get rid of them. I’d love to know which books and what exactly they’re about! I smiled when Piper found the blank page and thought that there had been something there. That’s our girl! AH!! The dog and the man look identical to the ones in the picture! So The Man is Robert…or is he?  LOL, I loved Piper already knowing what Leo has found out from the Elders…just so very typical Charmed and a nice place to end Act Four. ACT FIVE (Whoops! There should only be four acts, a teaser and a tag. Unless this is the tag, you’ve got one commercial break too many.) I like the idea of summoning Robert. Phoebe is right…it’s the best way to find out what’s happening and what happened. *huge smile* I love the fact that you’re sticking to the actual way of holding a séance compared to the way the show did it, including the protective circle of salt. And I like Leo doing the guiding. Oh, I loved Robert’s story and the fact that the sisters are indeed partially to blame for what happened. And I love most that they accepted that responsibility…the second set of Charmed Ones wouldn’t have, since thanks to Piper’s future son, they think that wrong things done for the right reasons are OK. *big smile* I loved the very original spell and the vanquish and I loved finding out that in his own way, Robert was the sisters’ innocent and that they’ve freed him. Great job! TAG (Nope, you had one commercial break too many...The WB/the CW/TNT...whichever network your show is on...LOVES you!) *sigh* As for the conversation between Piper and Leo. Does she really love him? Much like the fact that we disagree over how much and why Prue love(d/s) Andy, I feel the same way about Piper. Is there simply “chemistry” like there is between Prue and Ryan? How can she truly love him if she doesn’t respect his work, if she’s not the Piper who is in the flashback I posted? Yes, this is the same Piper that we saw in S2, the one who I truly felt made a huge mistake when she chose Leo over Dan…chose a magical husband and the life he represented over a mortal husband and the life he represented, the life Piper wants and wasn’t happy until she got it in Season Eight. I was so hoping your Piper would be more like the one we saw in Season One. During Season Two, I didn’t realize the consequences of Piper getting to have Leo on her terms rather than the Elders’. The Elders made a humongous mistake not taking Leo away and keeping him away until Piper learned her lesson… *smile* I did like the way the ghost dog helped Piper find out about the hidden door and helped her decide what to do, and I love the way it ended with the ghost dog wagging his tail at her. Beautiful way to end the episode. The mystery continues to intrigue me while the sisters and their lovelives continue to turn me off, now all of them except for Phoebe. So I’m going to be more interested in the mystery part of this than the sisters part of it. *sigh* I hated when Kern turned my favorite show from one about sisters who happen to be witches into one about witches who happen to live in the same manor. But in this series, it sounds like that’s what I’m going to have to do. This is also the reason I was a bad girl and looked ahead at the reviews for the other chapters and the speculations. It tells me that this is indeed what I’m going to do. |
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Post by Reyn on Jul 15, 2008 8:44:02 GMT
Wowser - I think that's the biggest review 2.03 has received! Many thanks for spending what I can only imagine was a huge amount of time reading and reviewing. Some comments: As weird as this sounds, I'm actually looking forward to seeing whether your opinions regarding the Prue/Ryan relationship change based on the events of this season. I can tell though, that for the next couple of episodes you're going to be grinding your teeth in irritation! He might be my Harry Stu type character, though he's clearly not your favourite! lol I see what you mean regarding the ending of the teaser. Cutting it earlier would have created a more omg moment, and reduced the length of the opening. I was editing the episode on Saturday (and interestingly, I added some lines to Piper's dialogue when she and Leo orb for the first time before I read your comments about that scene) but I can always do a quick re-edit to change the teaser break. I'm glad you like the hidden room - and I agree with your comments regarding places and buildings being characters in their own right. I've tried to give the hidden room a very particular feel to it, and because of all the wonderful things contained within it, it has given me quite a lot of plot hooks! It will definitely be one of the main locations for this season - as integral to the season as the nightclub or the Manor or the Academy. I had Piper investigate the hidden room because I felt that, being her own club, Piper would have wanted to investigate to see what was down there. As the room was within her nightclub, I feel like she'd take a sense of ownership over the trapdoor and see exploring as her responsibility. If the scene had happened anywhere else I would have had Phoebe jump down into the room, but as it happens inside Piper's club, I felt she would be the one to take the plunge. Sorry about the 'period' clothing bit - I was trying to think of a way to make the description vague enough that people could picture what they wanted, but specific enough that they picked only things from the 60s Very glad you enjoyed the Piper/Leo reunion! One of my major gripes concerning season 2 was how easily Piper accepted Leo back into her life. Almost no mention is made about where he's been or what he's been doing - he just arrives one day and Piper's all "Hey stranger." [cue kiss]. Not only do I think that is totally unrealistic (and yes, i understand the irony about wanting realism in a show about witches and demons ) but I think it was lazy on behalf of the writers. They missed out on some plot lines there, I think - and I wanted to capitalise on Leo's absense. There's a reason he's been away, a reason that ties into the end of the events of season 1 and the general plot arc of this season, and Piper isn't simply going to accept his absense as she did in the original season. As we are talking about Piper and Leo - I'll skip ahead now and address your concerns with Piper's feelings about Leo and her seeming lack of insight into his whitelighter status. You don't need to worry about Piper becoming like she did in latter Charmed seasons - I wouldn't let that happen! But having said that, I also won't just let her accept Leo's whitelighter status in the space of an episode. She has to go through some character development first. I think Piper's struggle to come to terms with Leo's status as a whitelighter is one of the most fascinating aspects of her character, and I want to take time exploring it. Whether or not she is able to accept Leo for who he is is one of the major plot arcs of this season. Piper does a lot of growing as a character in this season, and by the end of the season she'll have either adopted the attitude she had in Love Hurts, or she'll have realised she and Leo, despite their feelings, simply aren't 'the ones' for eachother. I have a lot of plans for Piper - some lovely, some heartwrenching, but none of them include having her turn into the latter season Piper. Regarding the Man - I am sticking to the mythology that evil cannot touch the book. The fact that the Man is able to touch the book is definitely a clue - and the KAL seen by his BOS page is the first part of the order to which he (and the Linespeakers) belong to. Ahh homey- yes. It's amazing how many times you can check a document and still miss errors. I'll fix it up in the next edit. Madame Executive is fun, isn't she? I always try to have her featured in at least 1 scene within the episode. But in Episode 11, she takes centre stage and practically the whole episode deals with her past. Aww the Ryan hate! Poor guy! lol - I'm scared to think what would happen to him if you met him in a darkened alleyway! Certainly nothing good I've always wondered about the commercial breaks and how many there were. As I don't have any Charmed scripts from the original series, I used the number of commercial breaks as written in the transcribed versions of the scripts over at charmedscripts.tv. In those, they always have 5 commercial breaks, so I just went with that format. And finally - regarding the sisters being sisters and not just witches who live together - again don't worry! Many of this season's plotlines focus on the relationship the girls have as sisters rather than their Charmed status. Magic's around, of course, but the sisters develop more as people than witches, and their dynamic as sisters is featured more heavily than their status as Charmed Ones. |
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*shrug* This is actually my least-favorite kind of review to either give or receive--it really takes no time compared to the type I like to give, but if that's what you like, then that's the type I'll give. Some comments: You're the one who said it...he's *your* Harry Stu type character, not mine. My opinions *might* change, but I doubt it. It'll probably take a miracle of epic proportions to change my opinion on Ryan's character -- and those type of miracles are pretty darned few and far between. I don't like his character, never have liked his character, and probably never will like his character, unless he proves that there's more to him than just looks. But I'll deal with his existence the best way I know how -- rolling my eyes and making sarcastic comments. Yup. Most of your other breaks work, but for the teaser, you really need the OMG moment leading into the theme song. Also keep in mind that both the teaser and the tag are usually quite a bit shorter than the actual acts. Although I was smiling through most of this, at the end that smile turned to alarm. Academy? ACADEMY?? Oh please, God, no! No Magic School!! I can see your point, but I still don't think that Piper would jump right in that quickly and I don't think Phoebe would want to be left behind. I can see Piper doing the, "No way! No way!" routine, Phoebe agreeing to go down and then Piper giving a big sigh and going, "No, no, it's my club; I should go do it," but doing an "OOH! ISH! YUCK! EEEK!" with every single step. Piper (especially early Piper) is not really the type of person to jump feet first into anything -- and that includes a room under a trap door!  Apology accepted. How 'but something like "dressed in clothing straight out of the 60's". Is that vague enough? And I disagree. She accepted that he had other charges and accepted that she might not ever see him again in the clip I gave you. If anything she should've been shocked and then thrilled to see him again. For her to change this much this quickly is just not Piper. I'm beginning to seriously think that what you need to do is rewrite S1 also so we can see why our favorite characters have changed so much so quickly (remembering that this is only three episodes in). I'm very glad about this, but as I said before, I think you went way, WAY too much the other way, a bit like you did with Prue. I didn't see anything in Episode Two that made me think she would just forget Andy and fall head-over-heels in love with Ryan that quickly and that thoroughly--no way she's only giving herself permission to explore! Going much, MUCH slower would've made a lot more sense. The same thing is true here. You're having Piper go from one extreme to another much too quickly without truly giving her a reason. I'm *very* glad that you're going to change her mind before the season is over (although as I said in the spoiler thing, if she doesn't end up with Leo, I won't scream), but I think *this* conversation should've come quite a bit later when something else has happened to make her feel this way, NOT just that Leo was with his other charges! If something similar had happened as happened in the Original Season Two (Leo being the reason why Dishwalla came to P3, not Piper, followed by using P3 in the middle of a concert to vanquish a demon, and then to use magic dust to make the victims forget, making Piper wonder how much Leo had made *her* forget), then this whole scene would make total sense. But for Piper to have accepted the fact that she might never see him again (see "Love Hurts") and then be angry that he was with other charges makes absolutely no sense at all. *smile* First glad to know that The Man is good...I was hoping he was. And thanks for explaining that KAL is the first part of his order (I'll call them the KALs until I know the whole name) and not his name. Yup. I know the feeling; I end up catching things and changing them each time I re-read my own stuff, but I enjoyed the opportunity to snipe at Ryan! Oh, she definitely is and you're having a blast with her! Can't wait until Episode 11...I might pull an Es and jump ahead the way I jumped ahead in Witchlighter... Well, believe it or not, I *am* the pacifist type who would rather fight with her mouth than her fists. If I ran into Ryan in a darkened alley, I'd say the same thing if I ran into him in a brightly-lit cafe: "Hey! Ry! Prue Halliwell, the gal you're dating? Guess what! She's a witch. Yup, really truly. She casts spells and mixes potion and all of her daughters (sorry, I don't believe the boys inherit Warren powers...only that of their fathers, meaning Paige's son would have none...no matter what Kern does/says) will be the same way. And guess what! She has all of these horrible beings chasing her and they'll chase anyone she loves. Don't believe me?? Ask her! Bye, Ry! Nice knowing you! I thought you'd feel that way if you knew..." And if he doesn't...MYSTERY SOLVED! hehehehehe! And that would probably be pretty mild compared to what he'd receive if I turned the Prue fans at Alternate Charmed and the Charmed Cafe loose on him. Ahh, I can only imagine. *evil grin* Although I can also imagine them going up to Prue, slapping her across the face a few times and asking, "Who are you and what did you do with our favorite sister?" Hmmm! I should go back and check those, because maybe I'm wrong and they did stuff differently on cable (wouldn't surprise me...). The standard one-hour show will have 5 commercial breaks, including the one after the teaser and the credits. You didn't understand my comments. Due to the way that they're handling their lovelives *so* very differently than they did in Season One, I'm not interested in them as sisters or as women, because them as women turn me off, but simply as them as witches/demon-hunters, because that's the part of the fic that fascinates me. That could change in the future, and truly, I hope it does, but right now, that's simply what is.
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Post by Reyn on Jul 16, 2008 4:45:55 GMT
I don't mind which type of review you give Es - use the format that you enjoy using the most, if you like Comments on comments about comments! You're the one who said it...he's *your* Harry Stu type character, not mine. My opinions *might* change, but I doubt it. It'll probably take a miracle of epic proportions to change my opinion on Ryan's character -- and those type of miracles are pretty darned few and far between. I don't like his character, never have liked his character, and probably never will like his character, unless he proves that there's more to him than just looks. But I'll deal with his existence the best way I know how -- rolling my eyes and making sarcastic comments. If you stay with the series, I think you're going to be surprised by Ryan, and the reasons for adding him as a character. Like Jackson, he is more than what he seems. You will probably still dislike him, but he's far from the 'eye candy sop' the majority of the Charmed men guest stars were. Apology accepted. How 'but something like "dressed in clothing straight out of the 60's". Is that vague enough? I can add that in And I disagree. She accepted that he had other charges and accepted that she might not ever see him again in the clip I gave you. If anything she should've been shocked and then thrilled to see him again. For her to change this much this quickly is just not Piper. She accepted that then, yes. But that was then, and this is now, 6 months later. Even if nothing out of the ordinary happened in that time, 6 months is a long time without hearing anything from the man you love. Without knowing what he's doing or even if he's ok (considering his job is pretty dangerous). That's also a lot of time to spend by yourself thinking. Although Piper accepted before that his whitelighter status was very important to him, and that it wasn't right for her to put their relationship in front of that, she's now had the opportunity to actually live the 'my boyfriend has responsibilities to other people' life. Saying you are fine with something and then actually being fine with the same something when you experience it are two different things. Piper thought she was fine with it, but then she had a lot of time to think. Add to that the fact that when he does return he tells her he hadn't contacted her because he was told not to - to her that's simply adding fuel to an already flammable situation. I'm very glad about this, but as I said before, I think you went way, WAY too much the other way, a bit like you did with Prue. I didn't see anything in Episode Two that made me think she would just forget Andy and fall head-over-heels in love with Ryan that quickly and that thoroughly--no way she's only giving herself permission to explore! Going much, MUCH slower would've made a lot more sense. The same thing is true here. You're having Piper go from one extreme to another much too quickly without truly giving her a reason. I'm still a little confused as to where I implied Prue was 'in love' with Ryan. At the moment, if anything, his feelings for her are greater than her feelings for him, but neither of them is 'in love.' I'm *very* glad that you're going to change her mind before the season is over (although as I said in the spoiler thing, if she doesn't end up with Leo, I won't scream), but I think *this* conversation should've come quite a bit later when something else has happened to make her feel this way, NOT just that Leo was with his other charges! If something similar had happened as happened in the Original Season Two (Leo being the reason why Dishwalla came to P3, not Piper, followed by using P3 in the middle of a concert to vanquish a demon, and then to use magic dust to make the victims forget, making Piper wonder how much Leo had made *her* forget), then this whole scene would make total sense. But for Piper to have accepted the fact that she might never see him again (see "Love Hurts") and then be angry that he was with other charges makes absolutely no sense at all. It was the combination of his long absense, coupled with the fact that he returned only at the request of 'them' that got to Piper. If they hadn't found the hidden room, how long would it have been before she did see him again? 8 months? 10 months? A year? The fact that he didn't try to see her (or even send word to her) stung. It hurt less when she thought his absense was because of his work, or because he couldn't physically see her. But when she found out he could have seen her but didn't because of his superiors 'instructions', that really hurt. When he mentions that, that is one of the reasons she is so agressive towards him when he did return. And his duty to 'them' and his whitelighter status is something she deals with for the first half of the season. Oh, she definitely is and you're having a blast with her! Can't wait until Episode 11...I might pull an Es and jump ahead the way I jumped ahead in Witchlighter... If you just read the Madame E parts, it would probably still make sense, although the sisters scenes wouldn't! lol Well, believe it or not, I *am* the pacifist type who would rather fight with her mouth than her fists. If I ran into Ryan in a darkened alley, I'd say the same thing if I ran into him in a brightly-lit cafe: "Hey! Ry! Prue Halliwell, the gal you're dating? Guess what! She's a witch. Yup, really truly. She casts spells and mixes potion and all of her daughters (sorry, I don't believe the boys inherit Warren powers...only that of their fathers, meaning Paige's son would have none...no matter what Kern does/says) will be the same way. And guess what! She has all of these horrible beings chasing her and they'll chase anyone she loves. Don't believe me?? Ask her! Bye, Ry! Nice knowing you! I thought you'd feel that way if you knew..." And if he doesn't...MYSTERY SOLVED! hehehehehe! Es - 2.06 should be an interesting read for you! You might find Ryan's reactions to your comments weren't as you expected. And that would probably be pretty mild compared to what he'd receive if I turned the Prue fans at Alternate Charmed and the Charmed Cafe loose on him. Ahh, I can only imagine. *evil grin* Ryan is a manly man! He can handle it! That could change in the future, and truly, I hope it does, but right now, that's simply what is. A mystery isn't a mystery if there isn't an unravelling of clues and reasoning across time. There wouldn't be much of a mystery if all of the characters actions were explained as they happened. Mysteries have to have secrets and unknowables to be mysteries. If all the reasoning behind the plot lines and character concepts was known from the beginning, no mystery exists. I've structured the season so that by its end (when all mysteries are known) people can look back on past events and say 'that's why she acted that way' or 'now I see why this happened.' Until all the mysteries are known, and all the clues revealed, interpretation of any character's motives can only be speculatory. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2008 6:17:35 GMT
It's late, so I'm going to wait until tomorrow to answer this thoroughly but this is for the last paragraph. You could very well be right, but it sounds like a lot of hedging to me.  I may do best simply skipping the sisters' parts until after you post that last episode. Then once I know everything and can go back knowing the reasons for everyone's motivations, I can read it an enjoy it without being irritated. Despite being a mystery geek, I'm also notorious for reading the very last page of a mystery first! |
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Post by Quiet Desperation on Oct 26, 2008 19:20:10 GMT
Hey, Tash! Just wanted you to know that I finished reading and I started with the review but I have to go to sleep. Expect a review tommorow. ;D
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Post by Reyn on Oct 27, 2008 8:25:57 GMT
Awesome Manar! I look forward to your review!
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Post by Quiet Desperation on Oct 27, 2008 18:25:58 GMT
Here's the review for Unearthing Shadow: TEASER: LMAO! That was hilarious and very Phoebe-like. Great job on this line. Another damn funny line! Love that Piper humor you added there. Phoebe's line just keep getting better and better. That's what I love about this, that you make the charcaters real. Along with their reactions. Wow! I really love the idea of the hidden room in Piper's club (I'm dying to know it's name!). It's really original that the episode big bad is in Piper's club. Lol. It's really ironic the sisters just stand and listen to people's disbeliefs in the supernatural. I love it when that happens. Overall, great opening for the episode. I really liked it. You introduced it ver originally. From Prue's date to Piper seeing Ryan for the first time to the hidden room. ACT ONE: I liked the introduction of act one. I loved how they explored the room. That 'bulids mystery', IMO. Ohh, a trapdoor! Nice idea you got there. Haha. Phoebe, the funny. Phoebe's humore is just amazing. Yay! More funny lines. All the humor you have are very original. Love the Piper line after that. I really loved the trapdoor scene and what's below it. Lol, loved the little sisterly argument. Ohh, skeletons. Great idea. It kinda reminded me of something at first, but disn't know what it was. Then I remebered-Spy Kids 2. Lol. ;D Haha. Yes, yet another favorite line of the episode. The kitchen scene was a great one. I loved when Piper and Phoebe were peeking on Prue. Haha, and she caught them! Lol. I'm glad that the date was a great one and not a 'it was boring, he's hiding something' kind of dates. Hmm, I really liked this act's cliffhanger. It was a good one, IMO. ACT TWO: Ohh, Leo! Glad that he was brought in this episode. So, he's been way for six months? Wow! I liked that awkward silence. And it's a pretty damn good reaction from Piper. That's exactly how Leo is when he hisitates. That scene got better by every line. I loved Piper's anger. And it was a very tense reunion. Which is a good thing. I really liked the idea of Leo's return and how that made Piper upset. PIPER (incensed) Difficult? Difficult! I'll show you difficult, you little disappearing angel - Interceding before she reaches Leo, Prue and Phoebe take a hold of Piper and try to calm her down. PRUE Piper! Was Piper going to slap Leo?! That would've been great if it hapenned. Hmm, I'm not sure how the man in purple touched the Book. Evil can't touch it. But again, you're goal is to 'build a mystery'. And you reached it in that scene. I hope there's a reason of how evil touched it. Loved the idea of the man in purple removing a page from the Book. I wonder why. I wonder what Prue meant here. I'm thinking that maybe something hapenned on her date... Ohh, Prue and Ryan have another date. That's nice. Haha, Piper is just too funny when it comes to Ryan. Another favourite line. Right, that's the first time that Piper and Ryan meet. Liked that he helped. Haha, did Piper get annoyed? Funny, considdering she thinks he's James Bond. Great bit. It really showed how Piper was upset at Leo. That's an original idea. Oh, that shadow and tradesmen scene really bulit a mystery. I wondered who that man again. And btw, does the shadow have a human-like face? Great cliffhanger for this act. ACT THREE: The Piper and Leo scene in the club was absolutely brilliantly-done! The emotions and lines were real and original. It was a great scene that is a perfect fit for their situation. That is just a Wow line. Beauiful, just beautiful. One of the best lines in the episode, maybe even in the past two episodes. Though Piper really changed from 1.20 Love Hurts, I can understand that six months is a long ime. That's half a year. I just loved the lines in your scene. God, it's so real! Haha, was that awkward when the tradesman intrrupting. Lol. Anne talks alot, doesn't she? Lol. I liked how she explained everything to Phoebe. It was nice to know about the previous things that hapenned to Robert. It was like a history listen to Phoebe. Lol. Yay! Madame Excutive! I missed her. I gotta say this everytime she appears, she's original! And you're original for making a big bad a woman! I just noticed that. I also love the Suites. They're original, too. Oh, so they have an agent. I wonder who it could be. Anyways, great little scene. Gave us more information. I really liked that Piper discovered the shadow by hearing a bark. The bit where Leo orbs Piper quickly, reminds me of A Witch in Time. Anyways, another nice cliffhanger for an act. ACT FOUR: Did Leo joke in the first bit? Lol. He line was actaully pretty funny. Also, that scene in the cafe' was pretty funny. I loved when Piper gave in and froze Ryan. That's the second time she's annoyed by him. Lol. Okay, I'm still not entirly sure if those Line Speakers are evil or not. Maybe they're neautral? Anyways, this is another scene that bulit a mystery. Also, they remind me of the Triad. Oh, so Piper realised a page was missing. Maybe that would be explained in future episodes. Loved the idea of the Shadow Souls. That's an awsome name. Great description, too. Oh! So, that's why the Shadow Souls were still in the club. Robert still hadn't moved on. Haha, Poor Leo. He orbs all the way up there to come down looking dumb. The Elders are very slow to explain. ACT FIVE: Loved that the sisters would summon Robert. That just really fits with the episode. Okay, so Phoebe was adding salt for protection? Wow! I thought Robert was evil. Great twist you got there. Loved the conversation that hapenned between the sisters and Robert. It really cleared things up. Great scene and an original one. The vanquish kindda happened fast. But it was still great. Nice spell, aswell. I think it's a pretty damn good vanquish. Glad to know that Rober moves on and the Shadow Souls are gone so that a new evil woud come! Aww, I'm glad that Piper and Leo are back together. Even though they're taking it slow. Good for them. Glad there's no Dan storyline. Lol. Great ending. The last final bit with the dog was really original and real. So, overall, an awsome, original episode! I loved everything about it. It was a beautiful, intence and funny episode with brilliant writing and ideas. Great job, Tash! Looking forward to Nothing to Fear. |
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Post by Reyn on Nov 5, 2008 14:39:12 GMT
Thank you for the review, Manar! I'm glad to hear that you enjoyed it! Some comments: It's excellent to hear that you like both the character conceptualisation and dialogue, and even better to see that you enjoy the dialogue of a variety of characters! I always try to add in a bit of humor every now and then, and it's very rewarding to see that you not only appreciated it, but that you felt it was 'in character'. I love seeing people's favourite quotes from episodes, and you picked out a lot of my favourite scenes too!
The Piper/Leo dynamic during the episode was a very central part of the storyline, and it's great to hear that you enjoyed the scenes they shared. It was important for me to show that Piper was upset with Leo for simply abandoning her (as she felt) for six months with no word, and I wanted to emphasize that she wasn't just going to welcome him with open arms after such an extended separation. This is something that is continued throughout the season, and Piper's feelings towards Leo and the kind of guy he is is resolved by the end of the season. But until then, I think it's important to have a little underlying annoyance between the two.
Regarding what Prue meant when she remarked not to read any newspaper clippings out loud - if you remember the previous episode, Prue got into quite a lot of trouble after reading those clippings she found in Patience Holden's WWII collection...
The shadow does indeed have a human like face - which makes it all the more scary. I've always thought it's the monsters that look almost human that are the scariest - much more so than your textbook evil creature with fangs and horns.
I'm beyond elated that you enjoyed the Piper/Leo scene in the club. The scene has a lot of tension in it which is hard to convey through words (I can vividly imagine it in my mind as I read it, but putting that to paper is difficult indeed) but from your comments it is clear that you felt the 'tone' I was going for. The piper in that scene is definitely different from the Piper in Love Hurts, but as you said 6 months is a long time, and a person's perspectives can change considerably in that time. I'm very happy you 'get' where Piper is coming from.
Hehe Anne - the 'exposition' character of the episode! I liked her as well - kind of reminded me of the loveable grandmother stereotype!
The Piper/Ryan relationship is an interesting one. She's the sister he's had the least to do with (being Prue's main squeeze and Phoebe's professor) and she's also the one who's least impressed with him (Phoebe has intimated that she did have a crush on him originally). Their relationship develops over the season, though she still continues to call him 'Bond'.
I must admit that the vanquishing scene was rather quick - and that's probably due to my dislike for rhyming spells. I'm of the opinion that the most interesting thing about the 'big bads' is their mythology and reason for being. So I spend most of the episodes talking about that and minimal time in their defeats. Although having said that, there are a few big bad fights that last quite a while and are, in my opinion, rather spectacular. Though I still dread vanquish spells!
There's no Dan character, per se, though that isn't to say there is no other love interest for Piper. I won't say any more for fear of spoiling future plots! Thanks again for reading and reviewing, Manar, and I'm delighted that you enjoyed the episode! Reading your review was just what I needed to re-energise me to write episode 2.14, so thank you very much for that! |
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Post by Quiet Desperation on Nov 5, 2008 19:49:24 GMT
Thanks for that review reply, Reyn. You really cleared thing up for me and you explained everything perfectly. I have a comment: I'm kinda embaressed for forgetting the news paper clippings from 2.02. Lol Anyways, thanks again. Glad to hear that reading my review is just what you needed. ;D Can't wait to read the next. |
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Post by Reyn on Nov 6, 2008 0:42:02 GMT
No problems Manar I figured the events in the earlier episode had just slipped your mind I try to reference events from other episodes when I can to keep a sense of continuity, so often there will be shoutouts to earlier episodes. |
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Post by Lexi on Nov 11, 2008 16:43:36 GMT
I really should be doing work, but I had to read the next episode since I really wanted to find out the reaction Piper had when Leo turned up. So, since that's what I wanted to find out I'll review that first. I love that Piper blew up at him for him staying away and that she didn't let him off too lightly. Its the Piper that we all loved right at the start. Having them "starting over again" was a nice touch at the end.
I really loved Phoebe in this episode. I was never a Phoebe fan, especially the later seasons, but with this you've kept her in the character that she was throughout season 1-3, I can really see picture her saying the lines and acting the part out. I can with them all, but Phoebe the most. I really like that.
The demons, well I should say ghosts, were interesting. I love the ideas that you're coming up with which makes me wanting to read more and more even though I should be getting on with work.
Once again though, the grey robes have me intrigued. What is in that room that they don't want the sisters to find out and also, what is in that room that Madame Executive wants from there. I'm sure there is something and I'm certain that Jackson is her man on the inside. Well, until the next episode that I manage to read, which may be tomorrow. |
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Post by Reyn on Nov 12, 2008 12:24:26 GMT
You are on a roll with these episodes, lexi! Soon you'll be all caught up!
[spoilers]It means a lot to me that you enjoyed the Piper/Leo scenes, as they were the scenes that I really wanted to 'nail' in this episode. The Piper/Leo relationship has always been one of the central parts to Charmed, and I believe it is very important, so I wanted the alternate season to focus on it, but not in the way that the show focused on it (if that makes sense!). Sure, there will be some drama and the two will go through a lot, but if by the end of the season they are together, then they will be together. I won't be sending them on the rollercoaster ride that their lives consisted of towards the latter half of the show.
It is the highest compliment to hear that, despite not particularly liking a certain character, you still enjoy their dialogue and their presence in the episode, and I am very touched that you liked Phoebe in this episode. Phoebe is not one of my favourite characters either, but I've found that the more I write for her, the more she grows on me. She has a snarky sense of humor that I enjoy writing for, and even though she isn't my favourite character, she still seems to get all the good lines!
Ahh work - don't you hate it? Totally takes up important 'you' time where you could be doing things you want to do! The shadow souls were an interesting big bad, though, and I wouldn't mind exploring their mythology a little more later in the season.
So your bet is on Jackson being the Agent? I can neither confirm nor deny that! Though I will say there are several hints sprinked within the scripts relating to the identity of both the Agent and The Man[/spoiler]
Again, thank you for your comments, Lexi! I enjoy reading them, and I appreciate them very much.
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Post by Terry on Jan 16, 2009 19:40:16 GMT
And here's mine: I am already liking this story it’s like watching an all new, quite different but so real episode! I love you, Tash, and I love your story! I don’t mean that in a boyfriend way lol just from a fan liking your writing very much cause it’s like watching the show on tv again, but with new images! You’re a genius - Prue getting her first real date with Ryan will be cool, can’t wait to see how that turns out, and Piper drooling all over him is funny lol last year, it was Phoebe doing so with Leo lol - Is every guy in your series going to be attractive? ’Cause no one can stand that! lol - this room looks like an altar room or something. Has Piper bought an old witch’s dwelling? How cool is that lol - Aha, right, if only Jackson knew Will he get to know, though? That’s the question. I don’t know why but I think he’s been introduced as a possible love partner for Ms Phoebe… - God, I nearly burst out laughing for real at this “Right now, probably getting busy with my professor.”! - Aha, go Piper, one day you’ll be able to blast the hell out of Phoebe’s ass or will she? Will the sisters get new powers? Cause that’d be cool - oh, oh, here come the shadows. This is a bit frightening lol - hehe, I can totally see Piper going all innocenty - It’s good that Prue had a magical time, to put it with her words - And I can totally imagine Prue’s reaction after Piper’s speech, aha!! - Oh I like the shadows story and the man appearing in the hidden room, like he’s been there looking for them to never go out or something, I can’t wait to find out - Oh Leo’s there this is becoming even more interesting Very sentimental moment, I had tears in my eyes lol you gotta love the two and Piper is so hurt, she’s never been like that in the early seasons of Charmed, not with him anyway. And this is just like Charmed lol he vanishes for months and comes back for work matters, tact Leo, you need to learn tact - Oh, yay, Go Piper, beat him to death - Oh, here comes the man again! What does he want with the Book? What the hell, he erased his own entry? But if he could touch the Book, that means he was good, and from what we’ve discussed, I gather he really isn’t evil, but then why delete all information on himself??? Intrigued and confused lol - BTW, why is everybody all about shadows? Lol there’s this man that “shadows” in and out, then Madame Executive’s Suits are described as shadow things and now there are these shadows going out of the hidden chamber… you gotta love shadows lol - Aha, Phoebe has an interesting theory with that light spell lol - hey, the man’s dog was never mentioned the first time we saw him appear! But god those Shadow demons do some damage :s it’d been cool (how morbid lol) to have seen that on TV. - God, how harsh she can be towards Leo lol come on, missy, love hurts - That’s some emotional scene you’ve got there with the two lovers! - Aha, poor Anne, how mistaken. I like the whole background around that Robert alchemist guy, I can’t wait to discover the real truth though! - OK now I’m intrigued. I guess you want us all to feel like the agent the Suit and Executive are talking about is Ryan… but what if that’s just a trick of yours? It could be that Jackson guy, working for a Charmed One is as good as going out with her… We’ll keep an eye on both of them… - Executive really looks like the tough type, better not get to the wrong side of her :s wonder what the sisters did to her … - Those Line Speakers and their secretive manners are getting on my nerves lol but I guess it’s a good thing and I find them interesting, so  - funny moment with Piper making Leo a fool before CB3 - Ho I love your version of the summoning a spirit, goodie - I was sure Robert was not such of a murderer I like the real background of his. - hehe, Piper’ll have her own magic room in her club, ehe, and I love the “let’s take it slowly and back from the beginning” act - oh, I just love the dog, will he stay there? I mean, he could be of help, couldn’t he? Plus Piper seems to like him so you can’t have her part from her new friend, he? Lol What a great new episode I just read I had a really awesome time reading it and the only thing I regret is my not having read it earlier (I just realized that copy-pasting reviews from the old c-net made the smileys disappear... so I'll get them back up there when I have some time ) |
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Post by Dark Witch. on Jan 25, 2009 20:01:45 GMT
Here is my review for Chapter 3! Scene 1 - I like the whole Prue is finally going on a real date with Ryan. She can finally get on with her life. I also think that Piper seeing Ryan for the first time is cool too. The whole Piper and Leo situation is interesting, I wonder how Leo will return, and tell us what will happen... Scene 2 - Whoa, that seems like a pretty interesting room. I wonder what it was used for, and who owned it. It seemed very interesting, nicely done. Scene 3 - The room is pretty interesting, but as they asked, was it for good or evil magic? I have a feeling it was for dark magic since Piper saw skeletons. Phoebe is such a scardie cat. lol. I am enjoying the whole room in general, can't wait to see what happens next! *Side note: i wonder if Ryan will learn the family secret soon... Scene 4 - The sisters are very funny. I like the comedy you put in there for them lol. I also think that Ryan and Prue are going to end up together. She must really like him. I also wonder what the significance of the room is...hmm... Scene 5 - Leo comes back! But of course Piper would be angry, I would be angry too...i think. haha. Also, I wonder what the interest is in the room that the Elders see. If the Elders think that it is important, and they have no idea who it is for or from, I wonder...I guess I will find out! lol. Scene 6 - Whoa, why did the demon/evil being touch the Book first of all, and why did he dissolve his entry in the Book of Shadows? Is he evil? Is he a friend? So many questions! Scene 7 - Phoebe seems to be learning fast in her wicca ways lol. Now, the thing with Prue and her newspaper reading was funny. I like how they weren't in the loop, but we know it. Nice allusion. Also, the thing with Piper and calling Ryan bond is another funny aspect hehe. I think Ryan is a little too good at knowing things, I believe he might be magical in some way, just not sure yet...The shadow demon is a little creepy for my taste, which is good, just saying...lol. Scene 8 - I like the scene with Leo and Piper, it sort of brings closure and explanation. I wonder who the charge was that leo had to help. It must have been important. And probably because of the Elder's rules, he was supposed to stay away from her. Piper seems a little childish, but at the same time rightfully emotional. She loves Leo so much, but the Elders are making it difficult for her to be with him. It must be so hard for her to be in that situation. Scene 9 - I like the story that Anne tells about Robert, about who he was, and what he was about. It was very interesting to read, a well put story, good job. Scene 10 - My god, Ryan must be the agent Madame Executive talked about. Other than Leo, he is the only man positioned enough to observe the sisters well enough... Scene 11 - Those shadow creatures still seem creepy, and going after Piper is not a good thing haha. I wonder how the shadow creatures came to be? Scene 12 - Wow, Piper is like the killer of love today, with Leo and all, and her being a little heartless with Ryan, who I still think is evil, is coming after Prue. I think you ar doing a great job showing the little quirks that the Charmed Ones have per episode, very well done. . Scene 13 - Everyone is really interested in the room. The books and all. I wonder who shall be the one to get the contents first, Madame Excutive, or the man who works for the council... Scene 14 - That scene with learning the Shadow Souls was interesting, but the funny thing is with Leo always being behind, it is really good incorporating a Charmed thing. . Scene 15 - I really like the spirit summoning spell, very well written. That was a cool spell, and very cool scene, great job with the spirit it was very well done. Scene 16 - Whoa, there is a lot of secret stuff in the club, I wonder what else is in the room. Whoa...nice ending! Very mysterious! |
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Apology accepted. How 'but something like "dressed in clothing straight out of the 60's". Is that vague enough? 
I may do best simply skipping the sisters' parts until after you post that last episode. Then once I know everything and can go back knowing the reasons for everyone's motivations, I can read it an enjoy it without being irritated. Despite being a mystery geek, I'm also notorious for reading the very last page of a mystery first! 
