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Post by Criminally Vulgar on May 27, 2010 21:12:59 GMT
When Charmed ended after season 8, I kinda just forced myself to accept the fact that all the things that went unexplained, would stay unexplained, since I saw absolutely no hope for a continuation. But with the comics to be released soon, and all the promise they show so far, I find myself thinking about all the loose ends the show had that would make great plots for the comics (that is, if they're not already! ;D). If, by chance, the writers or anyone else related to production comes across these ideas, I'm sure I can speak for us all when I say that we'd be more than happy if we could help shape the rest of the show. So, as most of you guys know, I've been having a series rewatch in preparation for the comics (I had actually just finished Ex Libris last night), and with my fresh eye, I've been noticing quite a few plots that were still kept open. The biggest one I can think of right now is the Soul Collector in The Power of Two. As if it wasn't big enough that she pretty much implied she would return for more souls, she told it to Prue, who is, as we know now, also a soul. I think it'd be an excellent way to bring Prue back into the series without actually bringing her back. Plus, with all the returning familiar faces we're being told about, it'd be amazing to see the soul collector return after all those years. And from Ex Libris, I noticed that Gibbs, the [mortal] man who the sisters basically imprisoned, was sent off to jail quite abruptly, after being magically forced into a confession of murder. He went from running the entire street, to running from the entire street, and his dethroning was all because of the girls. With our country's flawed system, there's bound to be a way for him to get revenge... and the fact that he knows that something magical happened only gives him more reason to do something... :s Okay, Gibbs is kind of a long shot, but the Soul Collector is anything but, and I'm pretty sure there were more endings like hers, even for good beings like Kit, who hinted at a return when Wyatt came into his powers, or even Kyle, who became a whitelighter- their paths were bound to cross again eventually. Can you guys think of anything else?
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Post by Terry on May 28, 2010 10:08:21 GMT
So, as most of you guys know, I've been having a series rewatch in preparation for the comics (I had actually just finished Ex Libris last night), and with my fresh eye, I've been noticing quite a few plots that were still kept open. The biggest one I can think of right now is the Soul Collector in The Power of Two. As if it wasn't big enough that she pretty much implied she would return for more souls, she told it to Prue, who is, as we know now, also a soul. I think it'd be an excellent way to bring Prue back into the series without actually bringing her back. Plus, with all the returning familiar faces we're being told about, it'd be amazing to see the soul collector return after all those years Ah! That's exactly what I meant in my post: But to go back to Prue, there is ONE plausible way to bring her back if only for a page or two, (an entire plot, really) but I won't share 'cause I could actually use it if that's not what they have in mind for the comic What if the Soul Collector has been true to her word and caught Prue's soul when she died? Patty and Penny might have stayed quiet to keep the girls safe while they worked undercover to know what happened to Prue's soul. The girls might stumble upon their sister's soul while investigating that new strengthening force in the Underworld...
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Post by Temporal Death on May 28, 2010 10:18:15 GMT
Quick, write it!
I was actually thinking about the Soul Collector a while ago, and wondered where she disappeared to. I hope we see her again.
I can't think of any other loose ends, but if they're bringing demons back from the dead, it would be fun to see Victor's second wife (the Sorceror's accomplice in TDTMD) come back pregnant. Wouldn't really fit into a "Power of Four" thing (which I loathe, to be honest), but it would let be cool to see what immunities/issues arise when a demon who shares their blood shows up. Of course, Paige wouldn't be affected much by him...
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Post by Terry on May 28, 2010 10:29:10 GMT
Quick, write it! I was actually thinking about the Soul Collector a while ago, and wondered where she disappeared to. I hope we see her again. I can't think of any other loose ends, but if they're bringing demons back from the dead, it would be fun to see Victor's second wife (the Sorceror's accomplice in TDTMD) come back pregnant. Wouldn't really fit into a "Power of Four" thing (which I loathe, to be honest), but it would let be cool to see what immunities/issues arise when a demon who shares their blood shows up. Of course, Paige wouldn't be affected much by him... Lol it's okay, I'll see if they handle it correctly first As for loose ends, isn't Bane Jessup still out there in a prison cell? The guy knows about demons so, could make a good ally without Cole around for infiltration and with Leo unable to access the Elders' "wisdom" (save for the books at Magic School). Oh, to get back to the "Ex-Libris" talk and my Satan theory: Isn't that the episode we learn about the whole Generals/minions hierarchy of the Underworld -- isn't it Charlene's thesis?
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Post by Temporal Death on May 28, 2010 11:02:49 GMT
I don't quite remember what Charlene's thesis was about, but I'm going to rewatch that episode tonight and add my general thoughts about it to the S2 discussion because I remember it being one of the few episodes that kinda freaked me out when I first watched it (back in 2002/2003).
Oh, now that you bring up Cole, there is one loose end that might be out there concerning him, but I'm not going to share it as a fellow writer decided to use it as a main plot point in one of their stories. Wonder if that story is still going to be continued... Hmm. (You know who you are).
And Bane. I wonder what more they could do with him now that Prue is more or less gone. I mean, he didn't connect with Piper and Phoebe in any way that I can remember. Unless when she's "back" (temporarily, hopefully) she needs his help/connections.
I like the Cole theory too.
Also, you guys should add "Spoilers" in the thread title, just to be safe.
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Post by Terry on May 28, 2010 11:37:54 GMT
Well, I think Cole's done his time. Unless they can make something better of him than the kamikaze from season 5. Speaking of, that could be Jessup's storyline. Some demons might have been telepathically torturing him, letting him know Prue's being kept from heaven by demons. He either escapes prison or is let out and goes on a kamikaze rescue mission As for Charlene, she was studying on demons, which is why the Libris killed her: they're kind of Evil Cleaners.
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Post by Temporal Death on May 28, 2010 11:45:32 GMT
I thought Cleaners were neutral, but I was going to draw on that parallel. I wouldn't want to see a beheaded Wyatt (that would be somewhat traumatising, even for me), but it would have been fun to see how these Libris demons could have been worked into the Grand Design to favor neutrality when cleaning magical messes, and have them chase down Wyatt.
They'd be way better to watch than two guys who look like they're advertising some kind of clothing bleach.
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Post by Glenn on May 28, 2010 12:07:33 GMT
The Libris demons only kill those who have evidence of the existence of Demons. Now that I think about it, Charlene is the only one in the series that has discovered the existence of demons all by herself. I often wondered how she was able to. I don't think she had written her complete thesis by only reading books or watching movies. She must have witnessed an attack or something else. About Bane Jessup. There's always a way to bring him back. Say Prue's soul has been captured by Charon, maybe the only way for Piper and Phoebe is to find her true love and do some kind of ritual or confession, whatever, and Bane could be her true love (I know most people think Andy is her true love, but I like Bane more ). Cole... I'd like to see him back in one issue, but only when they've got a good storyline for him. One that does not involve his love for Phoebe. I'm trying to think of other loose ends.....
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Post by Active Engaged on May 28, 2010 12:44:43 GMT
Say Prue's soul has been captured by Charon, maybe the only way for Piper and Phoebe is to find her true love and do some kind of ritual or confession, whatever, and Bane could be her true love (I know most people think Andy is her true love, but I like Bane more ). That's just bad, and reminds me of Snow White in so many ways. If Bane was to return, which would be kind of useless unless he was connected to Prue's storyline, I'd like it to be done nicely. He was an innocent (technically) which means that the Demon will probably come after him. And what if.. He has already sold his soul to possess powers so that he could defend himself. At the end of the issue he dies, and Charon arrives to collect his soul. There, one of the sisters notice that, when he is slowly being transported into Charon's layer, he says "Prue?". Just speculating.
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Post by Terry on May 28, 2010 14:06:16 GMT
I thought Cleaners were neutral, but I was going to draw on that parallel. I wouldn't want to see a beheaded Wyatt (that would be somewhat traumatising, even for me), but it would have been fun to see how these Libris demons could have been worked into the Grand Design to favor neutrality when cleaning magical messes, and have them chase down Wyatt. They'd be way better to watch than two guys who look like they're advertising some kind of clothing bleach. Well, yeah, Cleaners are said to be neutral. Now we know how neutral demons' employees can be (even if the other half of their bosses are Elders). But yeah, I guess Libris(es?) have the same goal, but use other means Will Smith should watch out for the Men in White! Mwahaha.
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Post by racer on May 28, 2010 23:05:52 GMT
I really don't know how they would keep Prue trapped with Charon. Even if Penny and Patty kept it a secret, they probably would've been hushed hushed for a few months. After not finding her after that time length, the probably would've told the girls then not five to seven years later.
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Post by thomstarr on Jun 15, 2010 15:30:07 GMT
I think the biggest Loose End of Charmed is Prue's death. If you look at it, Patty & Grams are definatly death, we've known that from the first episode, and they both were brought back, even Kyle was brought back as a Whitelighter, and we've never seen or heard anything about Prue ever since she died. The only thing we've heard about her is that Grams & Patty were with her in Charmed Again prt1.
But the story about that Soul demon from that episode, it would be really cool to see her again, either with a story line linked to Prue or Not.
if i think about another few Loose ends, i also have the story line with the Valkeries from season 6. They had a deal with the Charmed Ones, that the sister would keep their excistence a secret. What if in some way someone just like Inspector Sheridan had some information about the girls being a Valkery. I don't know how they would do that, but it's a possible way.
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Post by Temporal Death on Jun 15, 2010 16:20:37 GMT
Well, her death was actually an end. Like a full-stop, and they tied up all the explanations about her death, even the sisters' dealing with their emotions about that for episodes at a stretch (I think Piper clears out Prue's room and tries on her jacket in the Enchantress episode) and they also refer to her teaching Leo AP in 7x22. So yeah, I don't really believe that she is a loose end.
And about the Valkyries, uhm... yeah I could see that happening, but I don't know if it would be a well received storyline. Again, they were brought back in 7x22 during the fight at the Manor, and if they do have a final final, well, you know, the ultimate final battle (which could be done on epic propotions, unlike the one in S8), I'd like to see them there, with all of their minions.
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Post by Glenn on Jun 15, 2010 16:38:50 GMT
I can see the Valkyries returning. They totally fit into what Zenescope produces.
I'm not sure if it's loose end or not, but I just thought about the Stillman sisters. Not the most liked characters of the series, but I think that bringing them back for one more time could make a fun comic. Piper said their powers were bound and that they handed them over to Morris. But it's never confirmed if they actually went to jail. What if they escaped, found a way to unbound their powers and seek revenge. Sound like a good idea?
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Post by Temporal Death on Jun 15, 2010 16:42:07 GMT
Hahaha, I loved those silly bimbos. But I think bringing them to comics would be a real challenge as I don't feel their lines would have much effect without that stupid... rhythm (?) with which they speak. Get what I'm saying?
But yeah, I think they'd make a fun comic.
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Post by thomstarr on Jun 15, 2010 17:00:05 GMT
Your right, Prue was now that you've explained it some kind of a Loose end.
haha, those blondies would be nice to see back, but like TD said, they wont contribute anything to the story I think.
I still prefer the story for the Soul demon, because that could link pretty good to Prue.
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Post by Criminally Vulgar on Jun 18, 2010 23:22:24 GMT
Oh god, the Stillman sisters would be PERFECT for a comic! Their episode still makes me laugh out loud! But like Brandon said, it wouldn't be the same to read their ditziness, rather than seeing them act it out. Plus, the comics seem to be taking a much darker, more serious turn, so bringing back the Stillman sisters would be a step backwards, in the direction of what Charmed became during most of season 6. I like your theory though, Glenn!
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